<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C6DF43.80765780"> <link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="cid:editdata.mso@01C6DF43.80765780"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> Pianotek is now selling a product called Abatron WoodEpox that was demonstrated in <st1:City><st1:place>Rochester</st1:place></st1:City>. It can be kneaded and pressed into the tape-backed holes with a putty knife in such a way as to minimize or eliminate any post-cure sanding. Very slick.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - Mark Dierauf<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: David Ilvedson [mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:37 AM To: ed440@mindspring.com; pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: key lead hole filler <o:p> </o:p> Now that's what I'm talking about....thanks Ed...<o:p></o:p> Who do you get your supplies through...? David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Original message From: ed440@mindspring.com To: "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG>Received: 9/23/2006 4:56:05 AM Subject: Re: key lead hole filler<o:p></o:p> Sculpwood Epoxy Putty from System Three is a two part lightweight filled epoxy dough.It sands, drills and cuts nicely. Also takes black dye in the accidentals.<o:p></o:p> <div> Use SBS 46 skin cream (buy from epoxy supplier) and you can roll and stuff the epoxy into the holes with your hands.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Masking tape stretched over one side works well, does not stick to the epoxy and you don't need to clamp a piece of wood, just support with your finger or a piece of wood while you push the putty in from the other side and smooth the open side with a small putty knife.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> It took about an hour to fill an entire key set last week.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Ed Sutton<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> -----Original Message----- From: Farrell <MFARREL2@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>Sent: Sep 23, 2006 5:58 AM To: Pianotech List <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG>Subject: Re: key lead hole filler <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name="GENERATOR"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" bgColor="#ffffff"> <div> Yup, pretty much exactly. I've taken a scrap of flat wood, and clamp it to a keystick with spring clamps. I place a piece of plastic between the key and wood so the scrap doesn't get bonded to the key. Then simply fill the hole from the other side and level with a stick of some sort for a sanding-free hole-filling job. Done with care, no sanding is necessary. However, overfilling slightly and sanding flat makes for a more visually attractive repair IMHO, but it's more work, and who the heck is going to see it? I figure if you are trying to make it look pretty, then just cut some spruce plugs and go that route - nothing looks better than a chisel-cut flush spruce plug.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> One other thought. Sometimes you will get a tiny bit of squeeze-through on the plastic/wood-scrap side of the keystick (if the scrap wasn't clamped perfectly to the keystick. I've thought that next time I do this task that I would tape over the one side of the keystick with wide masking tape and then clamp a scrap of wood to that side - just thinking that the masking tape sticking to the keystick would better prevent any epoxy from oozing out around the perimeter of the hole on that side - again, mostly a visual thing. Will the epoxy bond to the sticky masking tape? I guess a little experimentation is in order first!<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Terry Farrell<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'>  <o:p></o:p> </div> I've got a Sty D with a lot of holes in the keys (before my time)  I'd like to repair this as efficiently as possible.   So, Terry, could write what your careful application might be?   I would imagine:   one side of the key has scrap wood and tape?   other side levels out nicely...????? David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044<o:p></o:p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Original message<o:p></o:p> I've done it both ways and whereas I sure do like the look of spruce plugs, epoxy is about a gazillion time faster.<o:p></o:p> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> I use West System epoxy resin and hardener and thicken it with their 410 MicrolightTM low-density filler. It cures to a tan color. This is a fairing filler and is extremely easy to sand - although careful application makes for almost no sanding needed.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Terry Farrell<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> ----- Original Message -----  > Just wondering. Why don't you must put a wood plug in the holes? > > Avery > > At 02:36 PM 9/22/2006, you wrote: > >>List, >> >>I read about the Abatron putty but was wondering whether anyone in >>the trades sells something ready to go with color? >> >>David Ilvedson, RPT<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </div> </ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML> </body> </html>