<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <P> <DIV>KeyKat said: "<FONT size=+0>In tuning E.T., I always start tuning by setting F3 to F4 octave as </FONT> <DIV><FONT size=+0>temperament. On each piano the F3 to A3, 7 BPS, is different some pianos </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>require "faster" 7 BPS some "slower" 7BPS. Now if this is true that different </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>pianos require different beats for setting the temperaments, then I presume the </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0>same is true for setting historic temperaments."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>For this reason, I believe that "historic temperaments" are NOT the same on a modern instrument. The old/ancient instruments had far less tension, thus giving an entirely different enharmonic spectrum. There was a plethora of inconsistancy to these instruments. This, I believe, was part of the "search" for an adequate temperament, i.e. so many different ones were "tried".<G></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>If one, truly, wishes to hear how a specific temperament sounds, I believe it has to be done on an Historic piano or a good replica therein. Some pianos, such as the dreaded "over-damper uprights"<G>, will give you that "sound" IMO..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>To me, historic temperaments on a modern piano is like putting lipstick on a pig.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Just my inflated $ opinion. Flack suit, (new model), zipped up tight.<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joseph Garrett, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Captain, Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P></P></BODY></HTML>