<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <P> <DIV>David I said: "<FONT size=+0>I usually use a forstner bit for retro-fitting pitmans in Steinways and other grands. Problem is starting the forstner bit into the keybed. I came across an Irwin 1&1/8" forstner type bit except with a threaded starter tip, about 3/4" long. As I think about it now I suppose the starter tip wouldn't be of much help since it is going into the pitman hole...anyone used this bit for this repair? "</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>David, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>As someone else suggested, for Forstners: Drill a piece of scrap wood with the appropriate hole size and temporarily tack/screw it, centered, on the existing pittman rod hole. That will keep the Forstner bit from wondering..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joseph Garrett, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Captain, Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P></P></BODY></HTML>