<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006>Greetings all --</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006>Great collection of responses on this question. I'm glad I didn't generalize and decided to include the manufacturer and year. Pretty amazing to learn that the general rules for this problem don't apply sometimes. (But then what else is new in our work, eh?) Once again this list has proven invaluable.  </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006>Thanks to all --</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006>-- Geoff Sykes</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=984045816-30102006><SPAN class=500291404-31102006>-- Assoc. Los Angeles.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>