<html> <body> Hi, Dave, Rather than sandpaper, I would use cloth-backed sheets designed for metal work.  The oxide is harder and will last longer. Best. Horace At 09:36 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> Hi,Dave! You need to use 60 or 80 sandpaper or ‘Dragon skin” for that application,it must be coarse to work on Brass.. If you Overdue it-you can always use Agraffe shim to level-raise it for correct level.. Good Luck to you.. Isaac  From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of piannaman@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:27 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: agraffe/agraffe shaving jig?   Hi Isaac,   Thanks for the tip.  I actually tried something akin to this.  I drilled a 1/4 inch hole in a packing block I got from the bottom panel of a Kawai upright, attached some sandpaper, and turned the agraffe around many times while applying pressure.  I didn't see any brass flecks coming off, so I assumed it wasn't working.   Guess I need to have a bit more patience!   Dave Stahl   -----Original Message----- From: irs.pianos@earthlink.net To: pianotech@ptg.org Sent: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: agraffe/agraffe shaving jig? Hi,Dave!  You can invest in Machinist’s Mill,Pianotech has them in their Catalog. I will tell you CD trick {Cheap and dirty}:Take Hammer Sanding File,drill Ľ” hole.Drop the agraffe in it and start making turns left and right,applying some pressure  on the Agraffe and watch buttom of the agraffe getting smaller.The Machinist mill works a lot faster,it has sharper teeth,but sandpaper on a paddle will do the trick.  I had learned that trick while teaching the agraffe class 20 years ago,being so proud of Machinist Mill and then a real old-timer from Massachussets shared with me that inexpensive trick after the class I tried it,it woyks!!… Hope it helps.. Good Luck!!   Isaac Sadigursky,RPT  Los Angeles chapter   <hr> <div align="center"></div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of piannaman@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:54 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: agraffe/agraffe shaving jig?    Hi all,   I replaced a broken agraffe on a Sohmer 57 grand that's 31 years old, but the shoulder is too high, which leaves the strings too high as well.  It works, more or less, but it sounds kind of buzzy at the moment.  I want to get the job done correctly.   The shoulder on the stock Schaff agraffes is 1/8" thick, I believe, and what I need is closer to 1/16".  If anybody has 1/4" agraffes with a 1/16" shoulder, I'll gladly purchase them.  I need one for a bicord.   IN the absence of that, does anyone have a way of shaving down the shoulders for a better fit?  And would this affect the its ability to thread into the plate?  Former chapter member Carl Meyer, rest his soul, almost certainly had just the device (and advice) I need...   Thanks,   Dave Stahl Dave Stahl Piano Service 650-224-3560 dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net <a href="http://dstahlpiano.net/" eudora="autourl"> http://dstahlpiano.net/</a> <hr> <div align="center"></div> <a href="http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol"> Check out the new AOL</a>. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. <div align="center">size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> <a href="http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol"> Check out the new AOL</a>. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.</blockquote></body> </html>