<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>For what it's worth, years ago an Associate had his yellow page ad done with RPT info before passing the test.  He failed the tests, I was in the Y.P with just Associate and I passed.  The Guild did nothing but tell him to remove the ad and any others (which couldn't be done).  No action was taken, even by those at the top.  He joined a nearby Chapter and was po'd at us for caring that he did it.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Lance Lafargue, RPT<BR>LAFARGUE PIANOS, LTD<BR>LPIANOS.com<BR><A href="mailto:lafargue@bellsouth.net">lafargue@bellsouth.net</A><BR>4244 Hwy 22 Mandeville, LA 70471<BR>985.72P.IANO</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com">piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:35 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: faux RPT?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Tom, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>While not exactly the same situation, I've come across pianos tuned by "members of the Technician's Guild," who I later found out weren't members of the PTG or any other guild.  It was even written on their business cards.  I was a bit po'd about it, but the general consensus was to let it go.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretending to be an RPT is a whole different matter.  Removing him or her from the PTG would be an appropriate punishment, IMHO.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Damage to a reputation from blatant lying about one's qualifications could be significant.  Negative word of mouth travels far.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you were a customer, would you want a known liar working on your piano?  In our business, trust is a big deal.  Most customers don't know or can't tell if you've done the work you've billed them for.  They have to take your word for it that it's been done.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't want someone who's capable of making false claims working on anything I own that's of value.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<BR>dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net<BR>http://dstahlpiano.net/<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: john@formsmapiano.com<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Sent: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 6:01 AM<BR>Subject: Re: faux RPT?<BR><BR> <STYLE>AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff } AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt } AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px } AOLAttachmentHeader { BORDER-RIGHT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #7da8d4 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; BORDER-LEFT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #7da8d4 1px solid } AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { PADDING-RIGHT: 3px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; BACKGROUND: #b5ddfa; PADDING-BOTTOM: 3px; FONT: 11px arial; PADDING-TOP: 3px } AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000; PADDING-TOP: 1px } AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000 } AOLAttachmentHeader A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none } .AOLImage A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none } AOLAttachmentHeader A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } .AOLImage A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } BODY { BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana"; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white } P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } IMG.managedImg { WIDTH: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px } IMG.placeholder { BORDER-RIGHT: #dadad6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #dadad6 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f4f4f4 no-repeat center center; BORDER-LEFT: #dadad6 1px solid; WIDTH: 275px; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dadad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 206px } </STYLE> <DIV class=AOLPlainTextBody id=AOLMsgPart_0_f5186991-50b1-44c0-8a49-b151c0133f52>Gosh, I would hope so Tom. If he were in my chapter, I'd want to give him the boot immediately if that were true. That kind of stuff doesn't get a second chance, in my opinion. Now, if someone misunderstood him to say he was "almost an RPT" or "working towards RPT," that would be different. But if it were proved, I say bring out the gallows!!! <BR> <BR>Now, there are probably ways set up in the bylaws to deal with this very situation. I haven't read that section in a while, but it would probably be in there. <BR> <BR>JF <BR> <BR>Tom Sivak wrote: <BR>> List <BR>> > Would the PTG take any action if it were found that an Associate > Member was telling prospective clients that he was an RPT? > > Other than kicking him out of the PTG, which would have little impact > on his professional life, seems like there wouldn't be much they could > do. > > Just curious... <BR>> <BR>> Tom Sivak <BR>> Chicago <BR></DIV> <DIV class=AOLPromoFooter> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> <A href="http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol" target=_blank><B>Check out the new AOL</B></A>. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>