<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Terry,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for the advice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The piano is a 1913 SS-M that was rebuilt in Poland.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The poly finish happened there.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is a very new finish and looks ok but not the best - no signs of separation that I can see.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The music desk is of the SS type that never had a hinge I believe (not certain) just the bumpers. It is possible that the rebuilders did not reinstall an existing hinge and covered up the holes - I have no way of knowing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As the owner is a teacher she loads the desk up fairly heavy with music books etc. She not only wants one hinge - she wants two. I cannot talk her out of it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 13, 2006 1:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Drilling into Polyester</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've not drilled into a polyester-finished piano, however, I do have a fair bit of experience with polyester in general. IF the ploy is well adhered to the wood substrate, you should have no problems at all - you should be able to drill, mark with a punch, etc. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HOWEVER, if the ploy finish was not properly applied and/or is not adhering real well to the wood, yeah, you could have all sorts of troubles arise.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course, unless you see hunks of finish falling off the piano elsewhere, it is difficult to tell whether the ploy/wood bond is good.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>IMHO, you might want to consider having the piano owner sign a disclaimer form that releases you of all liability related to the ploy finish. I'm sure an appropriate lawyer could spit something simple out in just a few minutes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gotta ask..... why does the owner want a mea-hinge on a pretty piano (except, of course, for the high gloss polyester finish!)? Is the old one broke? Music shelf damaged already?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello list,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have a client that wants the 9"x1" hinge installed on the music rack - it originally never had one " </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The piano has a high gloss polyester finish along with some very fancy veneer on the music shelf.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Drilling into poly makes me a bit nervous - never did it before, expecially in such a visible area of the piano - </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there a technique that someone uses to dimple the spot to drill so that the poly will not split, or to prevent the dirll bit from wandering? Accuracy is a must.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene Nelson</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>