<html> <body> Dale, At 10:12 PM 12/18/2006, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">     Hi Dean   Very Clever idea. I am one of those who routinely moves a grand by tipping on the lyre. wWell unless really rickity.  However the way we do it is essential to reducing stresses on the lyre.  We lay the Skid on a custm made dollie which has big flat hard rubber wheels </blockquote> I think the "flat" hard rubber wheels needs a little more explanation. Flat? Hmmm. Must be pretty hard to roll around. :-D Seriously though, I don't understand the flat. Avery <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> which do not pivot.  This provides a platform for the piano to land on which is about a 12 to 14 inch elevation above the floor.  This re -duces the severe angles known to destroy lyres. I may have cracked one in 34 years.  It was probably rickety.  Never the less I will incorporate your beautiful simplistic idea.   Thanks   Merry Christmas   Dale Erwin <dl> <dd>Here is a very simple brace you can make out of 1/2” threaded rod and electrical conduit. One end lodges between the inside of the leg top and keybed and the other end pushes against the lyre. It makes the lyre really solid and definitely makes the piano easier to tip on its side and vice versa. <dd>  <dd>Dean <dd>Dean May              cell 812.239.3359 <dd> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 <dd>Terre Haute IN  47802 </dl> </blockquote></body> </html>