<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Which two things?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com">piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 22, 2006 11:17 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: damper mechanism squeaks....argh!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>One of these two things does appear to be the problem.  Both have been lubed, but a different lubricant is needed on whichever one is causing it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Next stop:  McLube 1725 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Dave Stahl<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<BR><A href="mailto:dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net">dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net</A><BR><A href="http://dstahlpiano.net/">http://dstahlpiano.net/</A><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="mailto:wayne.w@musicstop.com">wayne.w@musicstop.com</A><BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:08 AM<BR>Subject: RE: damper mechanism squeaks....argh!<BR><BR> <STYLE>.AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff } .AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt } .AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px } .AOLAttachmentHeader { BORDER-RIGHT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #7da8d4 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; BORDER-LEFT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #7da8d4 1px solid } .AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { PADDING-RIGHT: 3px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; BACKGROUND: #b5ddfa; PADDING-BOTTOM: 3px; FONT: 11px arial; PADDING-TOP: 3px } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000; PADDING-TOP: 1px } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000 } .AOLAttachmentHeader A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none } .AOLImage A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none } .AOLAttachmentHeader A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } .AOLImage A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } BODY { BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana"; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white } P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } IMG.managedImg { WIDTH: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px } IMG.placeholder { BORDER-RIGHT: #dadad6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #dadad6 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f4f4f4 no-repeat center center; BORDER-LEFT: #dadad6 1px solid; WIDTH: 275px; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dadad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 206px } </STYLE> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8> <DIV><SPAN class=406025113-22122006><FONT face='"Verdana"'>I would re-check all of the damper springs. Also make sure the lift rod is well lube.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=406025113-22122006></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=406025113-22122006> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>Wayne Walker</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>Piano Tuner / Technician</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4></FONT></DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>Musicstop Acoustic Piano Service</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>264 Herring Cove Road</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>Halifax, NS, Canada</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>B3P 1M1</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>902-221-1540</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><STRONG>902-496-6924 Fax</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><STRONG><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2><A href="http://www.musicstop.com/" target=_blank>www.musicstop.com</A></FONT></STRONG></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> piannaman@aol.com [mailto:piannaman@aol.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 22, 2006 12:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: damper mechanism squeaks....argh!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>I didn't mention that I could get the mechanism to squeak...with the action outside of the piano.  It is definitely something in the action itself.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am convinced that whatever felt is on the damper levers is getting too much friction from the damper lift rod.  I will try the McLube suggestion from Paul McCloud.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It isn't case parts, of that I am sure.  Everything else has been lubricated and/or tightened.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Dave Stahl<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<BR>dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net<BR>http://dstahlpiano.net/<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: pianotech@a440piano.net<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:00 PM<BR>Subject: Re: damper mechanism squeaks....argh!<BR><BR> <STYLE>#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader { BORDER-RIGHT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #7da8d4 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; BORDER-LEFT: #7da8d4 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #7da8d4 1px solid}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { PADDING-RIGHT: 3px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; BACKGROUND: #b5ddfa; PADDING-BOTTOM: 3px; FONT: 11px arial; PADDING-TOP: 3px}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; PADDING-BOTTOM:! 1px; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000; PADDING-TOP: 1px}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; FONT: 11px arial; COLOR: #000000}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLImage A { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: none}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLAttachmentHeader A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 .AOLImage A:hover { COLOR: #2864b4; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 BODY { BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana"; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MA! RGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973 ad1663c8 IMG.managedImg { WIDTH: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px}#AOLMsgPart_2_f290e6b4-925c-4c85-930c-f973ad1663c8 IMG.placeholder { BORDER-RIGHT: #dadad6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #dadad6 1px solid; BACKGROUND: #f4f4f4 no-repeat center center; BORDER-LEFT: #dadad6 1px solid; WIDTH: 275px; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dadad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 206px}</STYLE> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_43049a41-6970-45d8-b96f-0cf070a565f6> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">Dave,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">If this piano has a pedal prop bolt that connects the trap lever to the pedal itself, check where the bolt runs through the pedal.  I have encountered squeaky groans at that interface, when the bolt rubs on the sides of the hole in the pedal.  My remedy is to remove the pedal, enlarge the hole slightly, and bush it with leather.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">Best,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">William R. Monroe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> Hi All,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I thought I could solve any damper pedal mechanism squeak, and up until recently, I've had pretty good luck.  Then I met a recent model Hallet-Davis (Dongbei built, I believe) upright.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I lubricated and tightened everything I could think of. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV class=AOLPromoFooter> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> <A href="http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol" target=_blank><B>Check out the new AOL</B></A>. 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