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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>David Love</span></font><font size=2 color=navy><span
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davidlovepianos@comcast.net<br>
www.davidlovepianos.com</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Jason Kanter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 24, 2006
9:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Pianotech List</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Lubricating key pins
without removing the keys: was RE: myths</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've been trying to visualize how you could
possibly be lubricating the center pins this way, and suddenly realized
you must be talking about only the front rail pins - yes?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jason Kanter<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/24/06, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>David Love</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> </p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>There
is a way to lubricate the key pins quickly and without removing the<br>
keys. Just slide the action out and stand it straight up with the
back rail <br>
resting on the key bed. Using a hypo oiler put a drop or two of
Protek<br>
directly on the key pin. It will wick up to the top of the key and
provide<br>
a nice and instant lubrication. For the sharps you have to use the
bombs <br>
away method so good aim is required. But once you get the hang of it
a<br>
couple of drops for each key is all it takes. The entire action can
be done<br>
in about five minutes (or less), lubricate the knuckles with Teflon powder <br>
(1 minute) and you're done.<br>
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David Love<br>
<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><br>
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-----Original Message----- <br>
From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>]
On Behalf<br>
Of Farrell<br>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:23 PM <br>
To: Pianotech List<br>
Subject: Re: myths<br>
<br>
No, I would lubricate the entire pin, from top to bottom. I'm not sure where<br>
<br>
you are headed with your comment.<br>
<br>
My point was to ask whether the technician made a common practice of <br>
removing all the keys to lubricate and including that service within his/her<br>
<br>
normal "tuning fee". As Terry Peterson pointed out, if the standard
tuning<br>
fee is high enough, then go for it if you feel that is providing optimal <br>
service. However, most technicians have a standard tuning fee that<br>
incorporates little more than a basic tuning (hey, I remove the fallboard on<br>
<br>
grands and clear out the debris, etc., etc).<br>
<br>
The point here is, for $75 or $100+ (depending on location) are you going to <br>
<br>
do a good tuning AND remove the action from a grand and remove the stack and<br>
<br>
remove the keys and lubricate and put it all back together for just your<br>
tuning fee?<br>
<br>
Sorry, not me.<br>
<br>
Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!! <br>
<br>
Terry Farrell<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
> If you were going to lubricate the keypins where do you think you would do<br>
<br>
> that? At the bottom of the key?<br>
><br>
> David Ilvedson, RPT <br>
> Pacifica, CA 94044<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------<br>
>>As in remove all the keys and lubricate keypins? No additional fee? You<br>
>>can't be serious! <br>
><br>
>>Terry Farrell<br>
><br>
>>----- Original Message -----<br>
>>> <<My standard tuning fee includes removing action and keys,
cleaning out<br>
>>> all<br>
>>> debris, lubricating keypins, where required, and checking for
foreign <br>
>>> objects.<br>
>>> Compliments of the season to all,<br>
>>> Bruce Browning - The Piano Tuner.>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I hope your "standard tuning fee" is at least $250! My
"standard tuning <br>
>>> fee" consists of a "standard tuning."<br>
>>><br>
>>> Terry Peterson<br>
><br>
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