<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "> I just replaced the plastic elbows on a Winter spinet this week. It took a little less than 2 hours. I use the Vagias snap on elbows from Pianotek (# EL-S). I had the action in a cradle on the bench. I first clamped some vice grip pliers on the wire snug up against the old elbow on note 1. I squeezed the old elbow with alligator pliers right in the whippen mortise around the center pin and the old elbow crumbled off (on all 88). Be careful not to damage the mortise. If the elbows do not break off use end nip pliers. Holding the wire or vice grips I then broke off or twisted off the old elbow and spun the new one up to the vice grips. With the Vagais elbows there is no need to repin the whip mortises. You just snap them on to the old center pin and move on to the next one. There is no need to remove the whips. As you work be aware of wasted motion, and when removing the vice grips from one wire clamp them onto the next instead of setting them down on the bench. I do, however, set down the alligator pliers after removing the old elbow from the whip. This will help speed up the process without having to hurry. The reason for using the vice grips is so that when you put the action back in the piano the lost motion will be close to where it was before and save time in setting it. <DIV> While you are at it, call the customer and tell them that it will be cheaper for them to let you go ahead and replace the plastic damper flanges that are frequently on these pianos as well. I use Pianotek #PW-DF10 standard damper flanges for most. <FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> </SPAN></FONT>This will save you from breaking one while putting the action back in the piano and do them the service of not having continuous damper problems when they start breaking as well. It took me 3 hours for this and I would be glad to detail the procedure if anyone was interested.</DIV><DIV> I hope this helps,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> Britt West</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>