<html> <body> Mike, I think the basic problem was/is that he was trying to regulate it on the bench. Not at the piano! And that won't work! Avery Todd At 11:11 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Jeff, Please clarify:  When the whites bottom out on the black FR punchings, have they dipped 3/8, or are they bottoming before reaching 3/8?  I don't understand which problem, or both, you are experiencing: a)  Whites bottom out on black FR before reaching full dip,       or b)  Full 3/8 dip is not sufficient to get let-off and aftertouch. (I used 3/8" in the above problem statements, but as others have pointed out, you should probably be using  10mm, or .394", which will give you and additional .019" to play with) Mike Jeff Miller wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">O.k. now that I've completely typed all the wrong info on the first email, and embarrassed myself , let me try this again. The piano is a G1 Yamaha Key height is 65.5 blow distance is 47.5 key dip is 3/8 (using the Jaras key dip tool) My problem is after I get through all the regulation points the white keys are bottoming out on the black keys  front rail felt.  I am regulating this action on the bench, I don't' know if that changes anything.  I can't think of any other details. Yes, I have spaced everything, aligned jacks in windows, etc..  I feel like its probably something real minor that I'm just overlooking. Thanks for any help. Jeff Miller Listen Now <<a href="http://www.livingwaters.com/learn/" eudora="autourl"> http://www.livingwaters.com/learn/</a>></blockquote> </blockquote></body> </html>