<html> <body> Hear here! At 08:48 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">>I am regulating this action on the bench, I don't' know if that changes anything. It doesn't change anything... it changes everything.</blockquote> Absolutely right.  It is impossible to fine regulate out of the piano without duplicating the key-bed's irregularities.  You can do that by recording dip in the piano and shimming the glides to duplicate but it is more work than doing it in the piano.  Bedding the key-frame to the key-bed in the piano is foundational to all other aspects of regulation.  I would also recommend determining if you like your strike point in the high treble before doing any alignment, little shifts here make for a lot of alignment work. A bench is OK for hanging new parts and getting them close enough for regulation.  There is one being sold (that I haven't tried out) that is designed to duplicate (kind-of) the piano's irregularities.  You can find it at <a href="http://www.edwardsstringcovers.com/" eudora="autourl"> http://www.edwardsstringcovers.com/</a> under "other products."  Don't know how well it works but it should give you an idea why a simple bench is inadequate to the task. >Any regulation really has to begin and end at the piano. This is how Yamaha teaches it on their video.  >When doing any bench work, duplicate in-piano conditions by assuring a solid <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">key frame footing and reestablish dip, otherwise all is lost. Reestablishing dip is the operative word.</blockquote> Look at that bench from edwards stringcovers and you will understand what he is talking about here. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">So... back to square 1.... </blockquote>Dittos, your first full regulation may be a trial by fire, chalk it up to learning expense.  I love to do them now.  Few pianos are sold with optimal regulation, my customers rave about how their D's and play now and wonder why they didn't play like that before...  I can sell my Chinese pianos over some fancier competition because I put the time into making them play like a piano should. Andrew</body> </html>