<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 22-jan-2007, at 18:21, David Andersen wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>I guess the question I have for all you ETD users is this, and I would deeply appreciate honesty here: where is your attention when you tune a piano? Do you listen in a focused, calm, attentive, relaxed way, giving your self to the world of sound? Or are you "on automatic," and free to roam through your thoughts, dreams, and schemes, putting the bulk of your attention on the stream of dialog in your head? I believe it's an important question, and I hope I get both honesty and collegiality in the replies, if any.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Happy Monday, kids. I'm off to work......</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>David Andersen</DIV><DIV> </DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>And again (this is an old conversation), and with my deepest respect I do not agree.</DIV><DIV>I have tuned an incredible amount of piano's with them pinky ears, and when I did my final concert grand tuning course at Yamaha, it was the finest tuning I've ever done.</DIV><DIV>Why? because the skills were honed to the limit - the limit, but it took me 2 hours to reach that limit, and I realized immediately that customers do not want to pay for a 2 hour tuning.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Soon afterwards (we're now talking about the year 2000), I found out that the Verituner gives me exactly that very tuning, and, without any stress or fatigue, and within 1 hour. The most difficult instruments suddenly turned into 'a peace of cake'.</DIV><DIV>My best customers, and they are professionals, demand a tuning done with the VT.</DIV><DIV>I tuned at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam for about 2 years with the VT and I swear that the instruments there have never sounded so in tune, finally.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Every now and then I tune aurally and, to my surprise, it is not a problem at all. All those years of aural tuning pay off, and within 5 minutes I am back to 'natural', and the tuning I make is definitely good enough, just like before.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So, what I am actually saying, is that it is possible to do both, but one has to actually do it both ways.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am now getting slightly older and a little more dented, and I prefer tuning with as little stress as possible.</DIV><DIV>That's what my ETD does for me.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>btw, an ETD is a great instrument for learning to tune rock steady because one can SEE what happens after a major blow.</DIV><DIV>Then there is the matter of the unisons : I personally think it is more important to make beautiful unisons then to make the most perfect tuning in the world.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>and again,</DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>friendly greetings</DIV><DIV>from</DIV><DIV>André Oorebeek</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Antoni van leeuwenhoekweg 15</DIV><DIV>1401 VW Bussum</DIV><DIV>the Netherlands</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>tel : 0031 35 6975840</DIV><DIV>tel : 0031 652388 008</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>where music is, </DIV><DIV>no harm can be</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>