<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">comments below....<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> But it´s not time-saving. A Verituner tuning still takes me the same time or even more.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gregor</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">For me it was time saving. I mean, all you're doing is basically tuning unisons. It does take a while to get used to visual tuning...looking at the screen.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">For me it also made my ear so incredibly lazy. After I sold the VT-100 and went back to aural tuning, I was literally amazed at the loss in my aural skills that had once been so quick and accurate. It took several months to get that confidence back. I won't choose that again unless my hearing starts to fail.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">JF</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Thank you, John. I appreciate your humble honesty. Let's run that back one more time:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">"For me it also made my ear so incredibly lazy. After I sold the VT-100 and went back to aural tuning, I was literally <B>amazed at the loss in my aural skills </B>that had once been so quick and accurate. It took several months to get that confidence back. I won't choose that again unless my hearing starts to fail."</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Bingo.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I can't say, with surety, that what happened with John will, or does, happen with every aural tuner that makes the switch to mainly ETD tuning. I sincerely hope not. Because the most precious tool, the biggest asset, the real payoff in terms of a successful business for us artisans is our exponentially enhanced ability to listen---and feel--- in a focused, calm, attentive, relaxed way.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I guess the question I have for all you ETD users is this, and I would deeply appreciate honesty here: where is your attention when you tune a piano? Do you listen in a focused, calm, attentive, relaxed way, giving your self to the world of sound? Or are you "on automatic," and free to roam through your thoughts, dreams, and schemes, putting the bulk of your attention on the stream of dialog in your head? I believe it's an important question, and I hope I get both honesty and collegiality in the replies, if any.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Happy Monday, kids. I'm off to work......</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>David Andersen</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>