<html> <body> Hi David. Comments interspersed. At 11:21 AM 1/22/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">comments below.... <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> But it´s not time-saving. A Verituner tuning still takes me the same time or even more. Gregor</blockquote></blockquote> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">For me it was time saving. I mean, all you're doing is basically tuning unisons. It does take a while to get used to visual tuning...looking at the screen. For me it also made my ear so incredibly lazy. After I sold the VT-100 and went back to aural tuning, I was literally amazed at the loss in my aural skills that had once been so quick and accurate. It took several months to get that confidence back. I won't choose that again unless my hearing starts to fail. JF</blockquote> Thank you, John.  I appreciate your humble honesty. Let's run that back one more time: "For me it also made my ear so incredibly lazy. After I sold the VT-100 and went back to aural tuning, I was literally amazed at the loss in my aural skills that had once been so quick and accurate. It took several months to get that confidence back. I won't choose that again unless my hearing starts to fail." Bingo. I can't say, with surety, that what happened with John will, or does, happen with every aural tuner that makes the switch to mainly ETD tuning. I sincerely hope not. Because the most precious tool, the biggest asset, the real payoff in terms of a successful business for us artisans is our exponentially enhanced ability to listen---and feel--- in a focused, calm, attentive, relaxed way. I guess the question I have for all you ETD users is this, and I would deeply appreciate honesty here: where is your attention when you tune a piano? </blockquote> I was a strictly aural tuner for over 25 yrs., so to me, working at a university, it really depends on the situation. I can store my aural tunings, of course, but if I'm tuning for a concert, I'll pay a LOT more attention to aural checks, etc. than if I'm tuning in a practice room! <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Do you listen in a focused, calm, attentive, relaxed way, giving your self to the world of sound? Or are you "on automatic," and free to roam through your thoughts, dreams, and schemes, putting the bulk of your attention on the stream of dialog in your head? </blockquote> Like I said above, only in practice rooms. :-) <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I believe it's an important question, and I hope I get both honesty and collegiality in the replies, if any.</blockquote> This was an honest reply but if truth be told, sometimes I'd rather just go on "automatic pilot" but as an aural tuner, I just cant' do it! Most of the time! Even though I'm being seriously affected with "short timers disease!" :-D <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Happy Monday, kids.  I'm off to work...... David Andersen</blockquote> Avery Todd University of Houston </body> </html>