<html> <body> Jesse, I don't really have an answer to your question but I've tuned more than one piano over the years that was app. a minor 3rd flat! Avery At 08:20 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> I wonder what the limit is as to how far flat a piano will go if it is never tuned. Let's say a piano was built in 1900, tuned many times in the factory until the strings were stretched out and the tune stabilized. If it were never tuned after that, would it reach a point, let's say, in the 1960's, 70's, or 80's where it would not go flat any more? And how flat would it end up being -- 150 cents? 200 cents? I'm curious because I've seen many old uprights that were about 150 cents flat, and I wondered if they were ever tuned over their 100 year lifetime.   Jesse Gitnik NYC Tech since 1980</blockquote></body> </html>