<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>I had one that I did a few years ago, it was over 300c down in pitch, not even, flat. Actually, it might even have been more than that. The first of the pitch raises, some notes had to be taken up over 200c.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>I asked the guy, when it was last tuned, and he told me, that it had never been tuned, and he remembered when it was delivered, in 1929.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>I brought it up, 1 semi-tone at a time, then a fine tune. No strings broke, and he hasn't called me since, even although, I told him, we were on catch up, and it would take a few tunings for it to stabilize.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=PIANOTECHNICIAN@aol.com href="mailto:PIANOTECHNICIAN@aol.com">PIANOTECHNICIAN@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> ; <A title=BEATLSONGS@aol.com href="mailto:BEATLSONGS@aol.com">BEATLSONGS@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Very interesting question--</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>I wonder what the limit is as to how far flat a piano will go if it is never tuned. Let's say a piano was built in 1900, tuned many times in the factory until the strings were stretched out and the tune stabilized.</DIV> <DIV>If it were never tuned after that, would it reach a point, let's say, in the 1960's, 70's, or 80's where it would not go flat any more? And how flat would it end up being -- 150 cents? 200 cents? I'm curious because I've seen many old uprights that were about 150 cents flat, and I wondered if they were <EM>ever </EM>tuned over their 100 year lifetime.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jesse Gitnik</DIV> <DIV>NYC</DIV> <DIV>Tech since 1980</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>