<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What's interesting to me in this thread is that no one has mentioned ETD tuining. Using either Tunelab or Cybertuner you can do a one pass pitch raise that sounds like a fine tuning. It is not perfect and may not be quite as stable but tuning each unison carefully as you go, the piano will sound better than most pianos that you find on dealers floors and it will be very close to pitch.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Norm Barrett</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hacicspe@gmail.com href="mailto:hacicspe@gmail.com">daniel carlton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">college and university technicians</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech mailing list</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:21 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Paid for Pitch Raises?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I tune for a couple of dealers where I live, and when I started, they both told me that they've never paid any technicians for pitch raises. One of the managers told me to go ahead and charge accordingly when I had to pull a piano to pitch that was a half step or more either direction. But I'm wondering if dealers in other areas pay for "routine," pitch raises of, say, less than a half step.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The owner of one of the stores explained that they don't want to have to spend more money than they have to on the used pianos in particular if they can only sell it for so much. I guess I do see the logic in that, but what about all the pitch corrections I have to do on the new pianos? I don't get anything for my time. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just can't stand leaving a piano off-pitch unless it's just <EM>absolutely</EM> not worth it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any comments?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Daniel Carlton</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>