As a noob to the biz who's yet to get anywhere near proficient at aural tuning, I use an ETD every time I tune for a customer. When said customer has a decent piano I use the SAT-3 Sequence option to tune in temperament sequence, using aural checks to learn the art of the science. I don't know if any other ETD's have such a feature... which doesn't mean none have it... I just don't know if they do or not. <br>Paul<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Annie Grieshop</b> <<a href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">annie@allthingspiano.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style=""> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">[Feeling akin to the puppy that blunders into No Man's Land (while the movie audience weeps, of course <g>)....]</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Something I've been thinking about lately: when using an ETD, I tune from one end of the piano to the other, but when I tune aurally, I start in the middle and work out.  There's no reason not to tune middle-out with an ETD, as far as I know, but I haven't.  (I use a Cybertuner.)</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">So, at least two questions:</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">*  is the sequence of tuning part of the differences between ears and ETDs?</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">*  does anyone do middle-out with an ETD as a matter of course?</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">In light of the recent discussion of how the piano reacts to the changing stresses of tuning, it seems as though a bottom-top sequence would certainly torque things around quite differently than middle-out. </font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Another question related to stress:  strip muting the piano and tuning one string for all notes before pulling in the unisons vs. tuning all strings in sequence........</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Thanks, as always!</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Annie Grieshop</font></span></div> <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font></span> </div></div> </blockquote></div><br>