<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Annie-pup,</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I use Cybertuner and start in the middle and work out. It gives me the opportunity to use aural checks and see how things are lining up. It bothers me to start at A0 and find out when I get to C5 that I wish the OTS was set differently. :-(  </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">It also gives me the false sense of security that if I knock the ETD off the piano and it breaks, that I can easily finish tuning aurally (through the tears, of course).</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Dave Davis, RPT<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Annie Grieshop <annie@allthingspiano.com><BR>To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:47:49 PM<BR>Subject: RE: etd's and ears<BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>[Feeling akin to the puppy that blunders into No Man's Land (while the movie audience weeps, of course <g>)....]</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Something I've been thinking about lately: when using an ETD, I tune from one end of the piano to the other, but when I tune aurally, I start in the middle and work out.  There's no reason not to tune middle-out with an ETD, as far as I know, but I haven't.  (I use a Cybertuner.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>So, at least two questions:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>*  is the sequence of tuning part of the differences between ears and ETDs?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>*  does anyone do middle-out with an ETD as a matter of course?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>In light of the recent discussion of how the piano reacts to the changing stresses of tuning, it seems as though a bottom-top sequence would certainly torque things around quite differently than middle-out. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Another question related to stress:  strip muting the piano and tuning one string for all notes before pulling in the unisons vs. tuning all strings in sequence........</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks, as always!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Annie Grieshop</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421502520-15022007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></DIV></div></body></html>