<html> <body> Good for you, Conrad. That's pretty much how I feel about it! Avery At 06:21 AM 2/15/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">At 10:25 PM 2/14/2007 -0600, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Whattaya think?????????????????????????  I wonder who made you god.........  Wow.  There is a vast difference in confidence and arrogance,  the realization that in all things human, humans will prove themselves fallible. That should, I would think, cause one to err on the side of caution............... les bartlett ----------</blockquote> I'm not God, but I talk to Him fairly often... A dozen years ago I was VERY sceptical of the quality of tuning obtained by the use of ETDs. Then I got one. Then I learned to use it. Then I overused it. Then I abused it. Then I _really_ learned to use it. When I'm doing 10 pianos in 10 hours for high school contest warmup rooms, I'm definitely on autopilot. When I'm doing concert tunings, I first use the ETD, then I check it against my ear. Any disagreements generally are resolved in favor of my ears. I just now got back from tuning up a D. It only needed a few unisons touched up, but I went through my entire tuning sequence. The ETD never got out of its case. Knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, IMHO, is the art in ETD usage.  If I've got a head cold, in a noisy location or doing bulk tuning, the ETD definitely rules the day. If not, we have a dialog. I tell folks that the ETD does the heavy lifting, my ears do the vernier calibration. Conrad Hoffsommer Early to rise: early to bed; Makes a man healthy, and socially dead. Conrad Hoffsommer - Keyboard Technician Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 - Right now, I'm hoping to live until my age matches my golf score, - Until then, I'll have to be content to have my IQ match my handicap.</blockquote></body> </html>