<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1561" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle20 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV>I've got to jump in here and understand where John Ross is coming from. Tonight here in Sherbrooke QC it's actually -25C which is about -23F. It's not worth it to take chances overnight with these temperatures and glues and/or electronic equipment.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Marcel Carey, RPT</DIV> <DIV>Sherbrooke, QC</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=fr dir=ltr align=left>-----Message d'origine----- De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] De la part de Dean May Envoyé : 19 février 2007 18:20 À : 'Pianotech List' Objet : RE: question from a beginner </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> Have you tried it? I bet it would in one of those new super insulated coolers that are supposed to hold ice for several days. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I noticed in temperatures getting down into the teens that it took several days for a case of water to freeze in my van- and that was with no cooler. The outer bottles froze first, then the inner bottles. If you put a lot of water into the cooler, like a couple of gallons in milk jugs, it has a lot of heat that must be given off before it will let the temperature inside that cooler drop below 32 degrees. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Dean<o:p></o:p> <U1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on">Dean May</U1:PERSONNAME>             cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p> <U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U1:CITY u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></U1:CITY> <U1:STATE u2:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</U1:STATE></st1:State>  <U1:POSTALCODE u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</U1:POSTALCODE></st1:PostalCode></st1:place></U1:PLACE><o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Ross Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:20 PM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: question from a beginner<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> That would work for working hours, with just stops at customers, where I have found no problem, as is.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> But the problem is that stuff can't be left overnight, in the vehicle, during minus temperatures.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> John M. Ross <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Windsor</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Nova Scotia</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place> <A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A><o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> From: <A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> To: <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:54 PM<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Subject: RE: question from a beginner<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> If you add several bottles of water to the cooler the water will help moderate the temperature. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Dean<o:p></o:p> <U1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on">Dean May</U1:PERSONNAME>             cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p> <U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U1:CITY u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></U1:CITY> <U1:STATE u2:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</U1:STATE></st1:State>  <U1:POSTALCODE u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</U1:POSTALCODE></st1:PostalCode></st1:place></U1:PLACE><o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: <A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Ross Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:32 PM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: question from a beginner<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Up here in the - degrees, a cooler wouldn't do it.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> On one of my older SAT's I left it out and it went down to 0 F, that lowered the battery's capacity, and it went below the holdon voltage. I lost the 'housekeeping' on the program, for the SAT.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I had to have it reprogrammed, by Inventronics.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I learned my lesson, don't forget to bring tools in, at night.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I don't think the same thing would happen with the SATlll, as it has 'flash' memory.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> John M. Ross <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Windsor</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Nova Scotia</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place> <A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A><o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> From: <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> To: <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:39 AM<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Subject: Re: question from a beginner<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> <DIV> Exactly the reason I keep all my glues (that I transport in the car) in a small cooler - well, kinda the reason - I use the cooler so the glue doesn't overheat here in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Tampa</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Florida</st1:State></st1:place> - but it will also help in the cold.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Terry Farrell<o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black">  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Watch the keep in the car, as they don't like being frozen.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> John M. Ross<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> Welcome to the strange world of piano techs! :-) I always use carpenter's glue because I carry some in a contact lens case in my kit. One of my fingers does the application. A number of glues would work well, though. PVC-E would also work well. You can get it in the craft section of Walmart. "Sobo" is one name brand I think, and there are a couple others. These two glues are good to keep in your car for when you need 'em. JF<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>