<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>How much tuning pin in pinblock?</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3059" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 03/25/07 08:24:46 Central Daylight Time, jonpage@comcast.net writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I think a more important consideration is the thickness of the plate in determining</DIV> <DIV>the length of the tuning pin.  The method mentioned above takes into account the</DIV> <DIV>thickness of the block which is unimportant unless you are using too long of a pin.</DIV> <DIV>It also doesn't account for larger diameter wire creating wider coils.  I try to use</DIV> <DIV>pins 1/8" longer for the single bass strings.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I, too, have used this strategy. </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>There should be some space between the bottom of the pin and bottom of the block</DIV> <DIV>in the event of driving the pin deeper so as not to have the pin protrude the bottom</DIV> <DIV>of the block as many Vose & Sons did and some new pianos which I think had Wyman</DIV> <DIV>on the fallboard and were displayed in Rochester last year.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I saw the same thing, Jon, and was mystified, but not really :-).</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>One application where a long pin is helpful is on some vertical pianos where there is</DIV> <DIV>a high counter bearing in the bass. Having the coils higher off the plate would reduce</DIV> <DIV>the sharp upwards angle of the string.  I think there are 2 5/8" pins for this.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Where are these available from, Jon?</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>And too much pin length in the block can make for difficult pin setting especially if the</DIV> <DIV>metal is springy.</DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>-- </PRE></X-SIGSEP> <DIV><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jon Page</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>PS  Terry, your posts (and many others) require scrolling sideways</DIV> <DIV>when viewing the list via the archive. Is your e-mail program set for</DIV> <DIV>lines over 72 characters?  It's as though you never hit the return key</DIV> <DIV>while typing. It's curious that most missives do not 'run-on'.</DIV> <DIV>Check it out:</DIV> <DIV>https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/2007-March/204162.html</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>