<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Robin,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I have a Kranich and Bach grand that was doped many many years ago, probably at least 15-20 years before I got it.. I purchased/inherited the piano from a somewhat distant relative prior to becoming a piano tech myself. The technician who worked on it for me all those years ago only re-pinned the ones that absolutely wouldn't hold and in the 25+ years since I have not replaced a single pin. The only drawback I've experienced thus far is the pins that were the 'dopiest' are jumpy and therefor somewhat hard to zero in on the correct pitch when tuning. They all hold very well though.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Having said all of this, if I were faced with the same situation now at a customers house, I would likely try CA first then consider plugging and re-drilling for new pins or replacing the entire block.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>will</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Apr 18, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Robin Blankenship wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Dear list,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">I'm looking at a small Steck grand of perhaps 50 to 60 years of age that recently came to central Virginia from Mobile, Alabama. Although the piano is fairly near pitch (about minus 15 cents), the tuning pins are pretty tentative and the entire web area looks like the block was heavily doped at some point in time. This instrument was heavily played and even used as a teaching vehicle until recently. It is clearly of limited intrinsic or musical value. It IS of considerable sentimental value to its owner.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">My question is this: what has been your experience or knowledge of repinning after a block has been doped? Would be going two sizes over be of any reasonable value or would the doping itself likely indicate that the block is just beyond salvaging? There have been some newer and presumably larger pins inserted in about seven places in the bass. Those feel about as "iffy" as do the others.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Any and all viewpoint appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Robin Blankenship</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Mataoca, Virginia</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>