<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007>Paul --</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007><FONT size=1></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007>I had to think about that a moment to get the right picture in my head but yeah, I understand what you're saying. Thanks for the tip.  </SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007><FONT size=1></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007>-- Geoff Sykes</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007>-- Assoc. Los Angeles</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007><FONT size=1></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=421155305-23042007><FONT size=1></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>PAULREVENKOJONES<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Enlivening bass strings<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Geoff:</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>You might want to be wary of half twists since that will bend the wire against the bends that are already there at the bridge pins. Better maybe to always twist full turns rather than half.</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Paul</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><STRONG>"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)</STRONG></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 04/22/07 21:41:40 Central Daylight Time, thetuner@ivories52.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV> <STYLE type=text/css> .aolmailheader {font-size:8pt; color:black; font-family:Arial} a.aolmailheader:link {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:visited {color:magenta; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:active {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:hover {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} </STYLE> Hi Joe -- <BR><BR>I get very good results from putting 1/2 twists in bass strings, but I <BR>always do it in the same direction as the windings. By your suggestion of <BR>twisting first the wrong way and then back, are you suggesting that the <BR>string be brought back up to pitch between these right and wrong twists? <BR><BR>-- Geoff Sykes <BR>-- Assoc. Los Angeles <BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf <BR>Of Joe And Penny Goss <BR>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:34 PM <BR>To: Pianotech List <BR>Subject: Re: Enlivening bass strings <BR><BR><BR>Hi, <BR>Now if you are going to do the twist, first twistthe wrong way then back. <BR>Try it you will like it. Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools imatunr@srvinet.com <BR>www.mothergoosetools.com <BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "John Dutton" <duttonjw@gmail.com> <BR>To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech@ptg.org> <BR>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:05 PM <BR>Subject: RE: Enlivening bass strings <BR><BR><BR>> Like Duaine I have had success with this same method except that I <BR>> only remove the string from the bottom hitch.  I generally try to keep <BR>> the loop in the 6-8" diameter range.  This process is described also <BR>> in Reblitz 2nd edition on page 116.  After I do this I try to give a <BR>> twist or two in the direction of the windings prior to reattaching to <BR>> the hitch pin. <BR>> <BR>> John Dutton <BR>> Billings, MT <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> From: Hechler Family [mailto:dahechler@charter.net] <BR>> Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 14:44 <BR>> To: Pianotech List <BR>> Subject: Re: Enlivening bass strings <BR>> <BR>> Richard, <BR>> <BR>> My mentor showed me a way but it's hard to describe so I'll make an <BR>> attempt at it. <BR>> <BR>> First, completely take out the string. Then take the string a form a <BR>> over-under loop (like the first part of tying your shoe laces) fairly <BR>> tight but not enough to loosen the winding. Then roll the "loop" up <BR>> and down the full length of the string. <BR>> <BR>> This will loosen and should remove all the dirt that has built up -in- <BR>> the windings. <BR>> <BR>> Like I said it is hard to describe in words <BR>> <BR>> Duaine <BR>> <BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>