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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Grinding the v-bar runs a risk of grinding
through the hardened portion that is crucial for clean termination.&nbsp; Wouldn&#8217;t
recommend that.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t see any problem with changing hammer bore
for each section.&nbsp; It&#8217;s fairly common for pianos to vary from the
bottom of the tenor to the top of the treble (not to mention bass and treble
differences).&nbsp; Often it&#8217;s a gradual change (as in Steinway), but
sometimes not.&nbsp; I can&#8217;t imagine we are talking about much difference
hear.&nbsp; There is a limit to how much you can effectively grind off an agraffe
to effect a change.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t see any real benefit anyway.&nbsp; The
simplest solution is often the best.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>David Love<br>
davidlovepianos@comcast.net<br>
www.davidlovepianos.com</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Frank Emerson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:44
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Pianotech List</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Agraffe Counterbore
Tool</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="MS Sans Serif"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>I agree with Terry that it
would be preferable to keep the hammer bore as consistent as possible.&nbsp; In
manufacturing, the counterboring is done on CNC machines.&nbsp; It would be
very difficult to keep the counterboring consistent, resulting in the strings
being in a consistent plane, even if you do get it closer to the treble plane.&nbsp;
Would it be easier, and more even to grind the v-bar to raise the treble,
rather than lower the tenor?&nbsp; Is there room to lower the plate a bit to
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>Frank Emerson</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" title="davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To: </span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 5/24/2007
10:31:00 AM </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: Agraffe
Counterbore Tool</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pretty hard to make any
significant difference without major grinding of the agraffes.&nbsp; I&#8217;d
simply adjust the hammer bore assuming that the bearing is not at issue. </span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>David Love<br>
davidlovepianos@comcast.net<br>
www.davidlovepianos.com</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Farrell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:59
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Pianotech List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Agraffe Counterbore
Tool</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To get my tenor string plane down to
the desired elevation (that of the two top treble sections). I know I can
simply adjust the hammer boring, but I wanted to get all the long bridge
sections&nbsp;(plain wire)&nbsp;as close to one plane as I reasonably could.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Terry Farrell</span></font></p>

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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net"
title="davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</a> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</a> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
May 24, 2007 9:26 AM</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: Agraffe
Counterbore Tool</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What&#8217;s
the situation that you need to grind down the agraffes?</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>David Love<br>
<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>have been happy with it.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But my current project needs to have
all its new agraffes ground down a fair bit. I do not relish grinding all these
agraffes&nbsp;by hand.&nbsp;I would love to put this thing in some slow turning
machine and grind my agraffes that way. But what machine? I wish I could chuck
it into my 1/2&quot; drill press. This thing just reeks of some special purpose
to the taper, etc. - what the heck is it supposed to mount in?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks for any ideas/input.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Terry Farrell</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Terry Farrell<br>
Farrell Piano</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.farrellpiano.com">www.farrellpiano.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:terry@farrellpiano.com">terry@farrellpiano.com</a></span></font></p>

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