<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I call it the "school of hard-knocks".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way, Shearing's  II-V7-I trick is built around the song "Laura", which utilizes a series of II-V7-I progressions. Shearing had a clever exercise which went through all keys and voiced in the same manner as "Laura". The ninth of the chord was always the leading tone . Very cool, very easy, and especially very workable if one were blind, like George. Talk about a guy who's sensory system more than made up for his lack of eyesight. An extremely brilliant mind...and a heck of a nice guy.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom Servinsky</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=annie@allthingspiano.com href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">Annie Grieshop</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:31 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Do you play piano?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Tom, that's wonderful.  To get pointers from Borge and Shearing -- how cool is that?  I need to go try that progression.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Educators talk about "syntonic" knowledge -- first-hand, personal, applied knowledge, as opposed to "book learning".  That seems to be what you're describing in the way your previous technical training "clicked" onced you started to play seriously.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250302403-04062007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Annie Grieshop</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Servinsky<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Do you play piano?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll take this being able to play issue a step further. It wasn't until I started to develop as a working cocktail pianist that I started to appreciate the full role of the piano technician.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Sure, at that point I had already past the RPT and CTE exams, attended most of the manufacture seminars and attended most of the conventions. But it wasn't until I started to play the piano on a much more serious level that things began to click.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I noticed myself becoming more frustrated when the action wouldn't respond to a fast piece that I was trying to play. I started to notice that voicing wasn't as even as I thought that it was.  I began to listen to the quality of tone on a much more defined level. I started to be much more critical of what tuning should be. I started to develop another perspective of tuning. And voicing...well I could go on and on with that topic.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Like many of you, I have my degree in music performance and education. I still play professionally as a orchestral clarinetist, playing with several orchestras and opera companies. But I didn't study piano as a child, although my parents tried to force it on me. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>  It wasn't until I was teaching in the schools that I started to use the piano on a daily basis. It quickly became my tool of choice during lessons. I was always a good score reader and had a well developed ear so I was able get by faking. Slowly but surely I began to play the piano more and more.  Then I began to become very curious about the workings of the piano and one thing led to another, and soon I was enrolled  piano technology program.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fast forward 28 yrs , I have had the good fortune to have worked with many of the great touring pianists.  I have had impromptu lessons with Victor Borge,George Shearing, and many others. I worked with  Victor Borge over  a 15 yr period when he was in Florida. He would force me to play some Debussy for him while he listened to the piano in the auditorium. Instead of finding fault in the piano, he would start criticizing my playing. When he realized that I was more or less self-taught pianist, he started to lighten up on me and started to give me constructive pointers..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> George Shearing showed me the art of "closed" voicing with a very cool  II-V7-I progression in all keys. What an eye-opener! Slowly I started to pay close attention to the technique and approach of the touring artists. Through osmosis I started develop a decent quality to my play. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My advise to young technicians who don't play the piano, learn. It's never to late.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You'll discover that it's good for your business.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It broadens your knowledge of why we do what we do.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Most of all, it's good for the soul. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isn't that one of things we are to be promoting to our clients?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom Servinsky</FONT></DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com">piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:09 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Do you play piano?</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Good post, Tom.  I agree with you that we don't have to play well to be a great tech, but playing enhances one's appreciation of the work we do for a living.  And I'll add that being a technician has enhanced my ability to listen to others I'm playing music with.<BR><BR>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 3px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">Not that you need to be fine player in order to achieve high levels of technical ability. But rather,developing a reasonable or advance level of playing ability can benefit you in gaining a greater appreciation and understanding of the finer aspects of fine tuning, regulation, and voicing. For me, it's broadens your understanding and empathy for the role we play for the pianists, our customers. <BR>Tom Servinsky <BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor _" <<A href="mailto:karlkaputt@hotmail.com" __doClobber__="true">karlkaputt@hotmail.com</A>> <BR>To: <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" __doClobber__="true">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> <BR>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:17 AM <BR>Subject: RE: Do you play piano? <BR> <BR>> >From: "Elwood Doss" <BR>> <BR>> Is not being able to play well a handicap? I don't <BR>>>think it is for me. As far as I know, I've had no dissatisfied <BR>>>customers. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> You don´t have to play well. It´s enough to be able to play one or two > songs. Perhaps it´s not a necessity but it´s a huge advantage. I remember > situations when I regulated a piano and thought to have done everything > correct. But playing that instrument showed me that there is something > going wrong which I never would have noticed without playing. <BR>> <BR>> Gregor </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both">Dave Stahl, RPT<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<BR>dstahlpiano@sbcglobal.net<BR>http://dstahlpiano.net/<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Tom Servinsky <TOMPIANO@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: Pianotech List <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 7:15 am<BR>Subject: Re: Do you play piano?<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_dff5d5cd-6a4e-4d6e-966e-a10b57812914 style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Not that you need to be fine player in order to achieve high levels of technical ability. But rather,developing a reasonable or advance level of playing ability can benefit you in gaining a greater appreciation and understanding of the finer aspects of fine tuning, regulation, and voicing. For me, it's broadens your understanding and empathy for the role we play for the pianists, our customers. <BR>Tom Servinsky <BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor _" <<A href="mailto:karlkaputt@hotmail.com">karlkaputt@hotmail.com</A>> <BR>To: <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> <BR>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:17 AM <BR>Subject: RE: Do you play piano? <BR> <BR>> >From: "Elwood Doss" <BR>> <BR>> Is not being able to play well a handicap? I don't <BR>>>think it is for me. As far as I know, I've had no dissatisfied <BR>>>customers. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> You don´t have to play well. It´s enough to be able to play one or two > songs. Perhaps it´s not a necessity but it´s a huge advantage. I remember > situations when I regulated a piano and thought to have done everything > correct. But playing that instrument showed me that there is something > going wrong which I never would have noticed without playing. <BR>> <BR>> Gregor <BR>> <BR>> _________________________________________________________________ <BR>> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > <A href="http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/" target=_blank>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/</A> <BR>> <BR>>  <BR></DIV> <DIV class=AOLPromoFooter> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <A href="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000437" target=_blank><B>AOL.com</B></A>.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>