<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=text/css>DIV { MARGIN: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have you removed keys and assessed exactly where they are sticking? You may have expanded leads.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>High humidity will not necessarily cause problems with a piano. I have a long-time client with two older grands in her living room. Her home was built in 1887 and does not have central heat or AC. She opens up all the windows daily. She lives in Tampa, Florida. Both pianos work very well (well, aside from the VERY rusty strings....).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 30, 2007 2:40 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Humidity and keys?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Treat only one piano at a time. As money allows. Start with the easiest.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wood swolen by humidity most likely will remain a problem until eased.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rsanbornmorgan@yahoo.com href="mailto:rsanbornmorgan@yahoo.com">Richard Morgan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:26 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Humidity and keys?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, new york, times, serif"> <DIV> <DIV>I was called out yesterday to tune two pianos in the same house--both Wurlitzers, a spinet and a grand.  They warned me that a few keys were sticking on each.  However, they didn't tell me how bad they were sticking!  They are currently unplayable, and untunable until the problems are fixed. </DIV> <UL> <LI>They bought the spinet very recently "from a very good home," and it was working fine then.  It is very clean. <LI>They've had the grand for 4 years, rescued from a chicken coop, before which it was a well-maintained church piano.  They claim an accomplished pianist liked it better than his own rebuilt grand.  The dampers looked very fresh, almost new, as if they had been recently replaced (not long before being rescued).  When I pulled the action, the hammers looked like they'd been in a chicken coop--old, hard, yellowed, and chewed-on. </LI></UL> <DIV>The actions on both seem to be working well, with minor, occasional sluggishness (could probably use some center pin lube).  I narrowed the problem on both pianos to the keys--many are binding against neighbors, and/or on the front rail bushings as well.  On the grand, the balance rail bushings are pretty worn and discolored, and several of the pins visible above the buttons are corroded; the front rail bushings I examined looked good. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, for the environment:  the house is a magnificent 3-story, 100 years old, <STRONG><EM>with no central heat/air!!</EM></STRONG>  It is in east central Texas, where, as you have heard on the news, we have received virtually our annual allotment of rain in this past week, and the whole spring/summer so far has been unseasonable wet.  Imagine the humidity! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sure the humidity has caused most of the problems, especially on the spinet.  How much will the key-sticking and sluggish action problems disappear as the humidity level drops?  Should I wait to do any work, to see how they stabilize?  If I were to do some key-easing on the spinet, and the humidity then drops significantly, would I then have 'pulley,' too loose keys? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the grand, from examination, I worry a bit about warped keys, but won't know that for sure until I take the action stack off and am able to handle each key.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems I have two courses of action:</DIV> <OL> <LI>Do nothing at the moment, let humidity levels go down, and see how the pianos are affected; also, strongly encourage heater bars installed on each, preferably immediately, to stabilize the humidity in the piano itself. <LI>For immediate action, at the very least, on the spinet apply silicone/teflon powder to the key bushings, and (very minimally) ease the key bushings; on the grand rebush the balance rail pins, polish the balance rail pins and front rail pins, apply silicone/teflon powder to the bushings.  The grand also calls for adjusting some of the back checks, that are 'grabbing' the hammer tails.  Also, strongly encourage heater bars for long-term stability. </LI></OL> <DIV>Oh, great list, I solicit your thoughts on this situation.  BTW, the lady several times made the point of saying that they were on social security, and couldn't afford to pay much (that's not going to cause me to underbid or lower my price--they did buy these two pianos, after all!).  After about the third time mentioning SS, I gently pointed out that I am helping to pay her social security!!  Too, from my limited exposure to sales, I remember that most people are able to afford what they want to afford. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for your insights and suggestions.</DIV><SPAN class=sg> <DIV>Richard Morgan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></SPAN></DIV></DIV><BR> <HR SIZE=1> Be a better Heartthrob. <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=list&sid=396545433">Get better relationship answers </A>from someone who knows.<BR>Yahoo! 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