<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have found that noise canciling does not require generation of the exact frequency as the ear buzz - just close. I use an IPod, play music with not much emotion, turn down the bass and turn up the treble. Then adjust the volume at the headphones so it just starts to interfere with the ear buzz.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It really helps.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also - a small fan left on at night really helps.</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have also found that for me - the ear buzz frequency is not much different than that which I have lost the ability to hear in the high frequency range. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Doc explains it as similar to loosing a limb and feeling phantom pain etc. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene Nelson</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=paul@bruesch.net href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net">paul bruesch</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:20 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ear buzz update</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>To the best of my knowledge, noise-canceling is accomplished by a microphone listening to ambient noise, and a wave generator creating an exact opposite noise...  In order to generate an opposite noise, there would have to be an actual, physical noise against which to generate a canceling noise. <BR><BR>Paul Bruesch<BR>Stillwater, MN<BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/5/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Leslie Bartlett</B> <<A href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote: </SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV lang=EN-US link="blue" vlink="purple"> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I wonder if the hearing geeks have managed to create some noise cancelling technology which could be applied to the offending pitches of the ringing.  I have some of it, but only really notice it when I have hearing aids <EM>out</EM> and attend to it.  My audiologist said she had been to really expensive conferences about managing such things, and after spending lots of bucks, she believes "ignoring it" is the best way to deal with it.  But maybe the hearing aid companies will even be able to address some of this in the not too distant future.......</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>les bartlett</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target=_blank>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [mailto:<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target=_blank>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ruth Phillips<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target=_blank>pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> ear buzz update<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi everyone,</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I wrote a couple of months ago about a new buzz in my ear</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">and got a lot of good suggestions.  The ear dr. hasn't found</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">a cause, after hearing tests and MRI, so it probably is going</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">to be permanent.  The good news is there was no reason for</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">it.  Now I need a very well fitted stopper to shut off the</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">buzz so I can tune and play again.  Thanks especially to Diane</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hofstetter for her big help at the convention and to all of you</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">who sent ideas.  It was fairly easy to adapt except for piano</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sounds!  Wow is it loud when I'm at the keyboard.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ruth Phillips</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV><BR> <P><FONT size=2>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<BR>Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 07/04/2007 1:40 PM<BR></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>