<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT size=3>Bob,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3> Are you a RPT ? are you a member of any piano association ? or are you just cheesed of that a lot of "piano tuners" just sort of tune pianos. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>How many tuners actually regulate pianos, or reface hammers or tell their customers what is wrong with their piano and how much it will cost to fix it up. ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Funny thing is that when you use a tuning program like Tunelab or Veritune or or you know how good or how bad the last tuner was. Study it and you can tell who the last tuner was.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Tuners who tune aurally in some cases seem to follow the same pattern of errors (according to an ET) which is consistent with their perception of what is correct. To you and me it may not be but to their customers it may be. Who knows.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Talking to another tuner in this country called Australia, We came to the conclusion that now that most of the tuners of concert pianos are using ET's it has made the tuning of concert pianos much easier. (less variation ?) Does not mean to say that if you have a good name for tuning concert pianos aurally that you are not tuning correctly.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Am not a member of any piano organisation in Australia because they will not let me join in my home state. But this does not mean that they (the others) can't tune pianos. Sure they should all have to do a test, but , they all agree that if you learnt from someone else, somewhere, then you must be able to tune a piano.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>If you believe that a RPT is not doing the right job or can't tune why not write or phone his chapter and explain why you think that that person should do another test. But keep it of this list.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>From that grumpy old bloke in Australia.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Tony Caught<BR>Australia<BR>0427 850 737<BR><A href="mailto:acaught@internode.on.net">acaught@internode.on.net</A><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ITUNEPIANO@aol.com href="mailto:ITUNEPIANO@aol.com">ITUNEPIANO@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:42 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Here comes the pitch</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>I've always said that RPT's should be re-tested every 5 years.  Doesn't have to be a formal test, simply tuning a piano prior to a meeting for the group to hear would suffice.  Also, the RPT tuning tests don't simulate a real tuning.  They don't test for pitch raises, which is 70 percent of what I do.  And..I've never seen a piano where every other note is sharp, and the others are flat.  Stability aside, the tests should approximate what we do every day, and they don't.  Do I see a council proposal for next year??? Perhaps. Bob.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR> <DIV><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> See what's free at <A title=http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503 href="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503" target=_blank>AOL.com</A>. </FONT></DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free Edition. <BR>Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: 7/9/2007 5:22 PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>