<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> At the front.   <div> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net www.davidlovepianos.com </div> -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Erwinspiano@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:43 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Setting Dip on the Bench   <div> <div>  Back to my other inquiry.  10 mm dip measured where & how?  It matters obviously ie. 10 mm at the pin is different than at the key front. </div> <div>     Yamaha does this at the front of the key with a Metric ruler, Steinway with dip blocks. </div> <div>   Dale </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> My typical method is using the inserted punching (.030) and set dip until the jack just escapes with light pressure in the piano.  Then I measure to see what the dip is.  If it’s too shallow or too deep I adjust the blow (within reason) until the dip regulates where I want it—(10 mm is my dip of choice).  I’ll go to .040 aftertouch if I have to for a compromise but I prefer .030.  I do that after all other regulation is done (except backchecks).   I find I need to do this at eye level at the keybed.  All other methods are simply roughing it in.  I’ve tried the other methods you mentioned but none are precise enough.  I would like to have a method of transferring the set up on the keybed to the bench so that the dip is precisely duplicated.  But like Ed mentioned, this may be a pipe dream.  I’ve tried various methods of rebedding the keyframe on the bench but none quite do the trick.  Some get close but I still have to check it in the piano.  I was hoping I was missing some foolproof method however I think that inherent differences in the keybed level and the bench will always produce different results.  I’m hoping to be proven wrong.    <div> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net www.davidlovepianos.com </div> </blockquote> </div> <div>   </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Get a sneak peak of the all-new <a href="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982" target="_blank" title="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982">AOL.com</a>. </div> </div> </body> </html>