<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> Hey Steven<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I usually try the Protek or Goose Juice first. It’s easy and I keep a hypo oiler of it right in my tool kit. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> A used Wurly console, eh? They can be troublesome. I’ve had several of those where the problem was too much friction in the whippen pin. Some responded to Protek, some needed repining. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Note which keys are particularly troublesome. Take the action out, remove that whippen, and test the flange for tightness. Apply Protek and see if it frees up. If it works, go ahead and lubricate all of them. Just turn the action upside down and squirt along the whippen pin joints. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If it doesn’t free up I’m afraid you’ll have to do some re-pinning. Although you might try alcohol treatment first. I’ve never done it, but others have good success. Search the archives. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Lay the action on the dampers and then lube all of the jack flanges. Finally, do the hammer flanges. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> While action is out take a look at the keys and test how freely they move. Give attention as appropriate. It doesn’t matter if it is new or used, you fit keysticks the same.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Reinstall action and see how it does. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Oh, and since you are getting the digest version, be sure to delete all of the posts when you are doing a reply. Otherwise it makes your email pretty long. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> <u1:PersonName u2:st="on">Dean May</u1:PersonName>             cell 812.239.3359 <o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 <o:p></o:p> <u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:City u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></u1:City> <u1:State u2:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</u1:State></st1:State>  <u1:PostalCode u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</u1:PostalCode></st1:PostalCode></st1:place></u1:place><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Steven Hopp Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:52 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: RE: Wanting to do it right<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Thanks all for the advice.  It will be used.  Dean the piano was not new.  It was a used Wurlitzer console and had not been tuned in a long while.  I am sure my techniques are not perfect yet.  I am working on that.  However, the high treble was where the flat was coming in not the whole piano.  I do appreciate the doing it right - eating some of the cost and gaining a loyal customer who recommends me suggestion.  I will remember that.  I really need to improve on my repair skills and diagnosis.  When might a lubricant i.e. protech be used vs. re=pining?  Would your advice for the key culprit be any different knowing the piano was used?  Again Thanks<o:p></o:p> </div> Steven <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>