I believe that the frequent poster who consistently mentions his 8-year guarantee (I don't recall who it is... sorry!) only offers a money-back guarantee, not a pinblock guarantee. If the pinblock is in a condition to warrant CA treatment, the alternatives essentially are (a) replace the pinblock or (b) replace the pins with oversize. BTW, I charge $100 (I've only done two so far) and no guarantee, tho' both have worked marvelously. I have a third planned before its next tuning. (The better alternative on that one would be to remove the A0 pin and move a new(er) piano under it.) Paul Bruesch Stillwater, MN <div>On 7/19/07, David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="blue" lang="EN-US"> <div> Yes I have.  The question was not whether it is an effective treatment, it was whether you would offer a guarantee.  I would not.  If you have to CA the pinblock the block is compromised.  I'm not saying it doesn't work but I wouldn't offer a guarantee.  What if the block fails after your application?  While your application would not have caused that you might be held responsible for replacing the block if you offer a "guarantee".      <div> David Love <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a> <a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.davidlovepianos.com</a> </div> -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Alan Barnard Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:27 PM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Extreme measure? was RE: Pricing Pinblock Treatments   David, respectfully, have you tried CA treatment? I only ask because words like "extreme measure" and "salvage a bad situation" make no sense to me, based on years of experience with darned near miraculous results and the many, many similar testamonies of other techs.     It isn't appropriate for a grand piano rebuild, perhaps, but it sure as heck is THE treatment of choice for that old upright, old spinet, or old console when the alternative is a bonfire.   Alan Barnard Salem, MO <div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 2.25pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"> <div style="text-align: center;" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </div> </div> Original message From: "David Love"   To: "Pianotech List"   Received: 7/19/2007 12:15:08 PM Subject: RE: Pricing Pinblock Treatments No warrantee on CA doping of a pinblock (I assume you mean that and not on tuning).  It's an extreme measure to try and salvage a bad situation.  In fact, I would be explicit that the results cannot be guaranteed.    <div> David Love <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a> <a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.davidlovepianos.com</a> </div> -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:10 AM To: <a href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">tune4u@earthlink.net</a>; Pianotech List Subject: Re: Pricing Pinblock Treatments   <div> ??? What kind of warrantee do you offer on your tuning??? </div> <div> Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools <a href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">imatunr@srvinet.com</a> <a href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.mothergoosetools.com</a> </div> <blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <div> ----- Original Message ----- </div> <div> <p style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; margin-left: 1in; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> From: <a href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net" title="tune4u@earthlink.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Alan Barnard</a> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pianotech@ptg.org</a> </div> <div> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:56 AM </div> <div> Subject: Pricing Pinblock Treatments </div> <div>   </div> I'm wondering what folks out there are charging, typically, for CA treating an upright block, maybe expressed as a percent of tuning fee or hourly rates.   Also, are you offering a warrantee?    Alan Barnard Salem, MO   I live in a gated community, but they let me out for good behavior. </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div>