Yes  C-64 is almost always within a mm.  Of course there will be exceptions. But whatever formula the Factory boys used to determine the b Scale & strike line was pretty uniformly off in my experience & that goes for the C & D ---JMO though.  <br>    AS Paul illuded to each one will be slightly different.  Even so, & even with my first best ear setting of the curved hammer strike line, I often move hammers a bit later on to maximize the sound especially when it gets down the brass tacks of final voicing & small improvements show up as refinement progresses. <br>    Ah yes I like to go back on many of my past rebuilds.  Sometimes I get to do .....things over? <br>   Refine things further? Yes<br>  Dale<br> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 3px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So you’ve obviously found some consistency in this requirement.  I guess it makes sense since I would presume it’s related to the plate design or casting.  Looking back, though, I’m not sure I’ve seen the need in every example.  <STRONG><U>Maybe it’s time to go back and visit those pianos…maybe later.  </U></STRONG></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT><STRONG><U> </U></STRONG></div> <div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">David Love<br> <A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" __doClobber__="true">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</A><br> <A href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" target=_blank>www.davidlovepianos.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" __doClobber__="true">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?" __doClobber__="true">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com" __doClobber__="true">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:34 AM<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" __doClobber__="true">pianotech@ptg.org</A><br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Finding the strike line another method</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </div> <div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">   <EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">David</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">  Nice post</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">    My default Strike line setting for all Steinway B's is this.  Noted 52 & 69 are hung on the old line.  Note 64 is hung 4 mm toward the player.  The rest of the section is hung in a gentle arc.  Corrections are made later. Or if I have the piano in shop I do similar set ups.</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">    Dale</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </div> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE><br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: PAULREVENKOJONES <paulrevenkojones@aol.com><br> To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 8:20 pm<br> Subject: Re: Finding the strike line another method<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f> <div>David:</div> <div> </div> <div>I've been doing this modification in the strike for many years and have never found either the placement or dimensional changes to be consistent. So measuring every time has been the rule. But I have certainly picked up some measuring tricks from you, thanks!</div> <div> </div> <div>Paul</div> <div> </div> <div> <div><STRONG>"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)</STRONG></div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>In a message dated 07/25/07 20:56:15 Central Daylight Time, <A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</A> writes:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <div> <STYLE type=text/css>#AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f .aolmailheader {font-size:8pt; color:black; font-family:Arial}#AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f a.aolmailheader:link {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal}#AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f a.aolmailheader:visited {color:magenta; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal}#AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f a.aolmailheader:active {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal}#AOLMsgPart_2_ee699d44-41f3-4d69-9a4b-f9dbaebc6d0f a.aolmailheader:hover {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal}</STYLE> <STYLE></STYLE> <div class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So you’ve obviously found some consistency in this requirement.  I guess it makes sense since I would presume it’s related to the plate design or casting.  Looking back, though, I’m not sure I’ve seen the need in every example.  Maybe it’s time to go back and visit those pianos…maybe later.  </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </div> <div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">David Love<br> <A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</A><br> <A href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" target=_blank>www.davidlovepianos.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:34 AM<br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><br> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Finding the strike line another method</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </div> <div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">   <EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">David</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></SPAN></FONT></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">  Nice post</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">    My default Strike line setting for all Steinway B's is this.  Noted 52 & 69 are hung on the old line.  Note 64 is hung 4 mm toward the player.  The rest of the section is hung in a gentle arc.  Corrections are made later. Or if I have the piano in shop I do similar set ups.</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><B><I><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">    Dale</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM></div> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </div> </div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><br> <br> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Get a sneak peek of the all-new <A title=http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982 href="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982" target=_blank alt="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982">AOL.com</A>.</SPAN></FONT></div> </div> </div> </div> </BLOCKQUOTE> <div> </div> </div> <div class="AOLPromoFooter"> <hr style="margin-top:10px;" /> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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