<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=4>Dear Paul,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>The camp is only open two months of the year. The winters here are very long and rugged. All the pianos are stored in a seperate room where there is a minimal amount of climate comtrol.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Right now,the 1919 A Steinway is in an uninsulated auditorium for the summer. There is a Damp-Chaser heating bar inside.  Is this sufficient for the summer. The camp also wants dampchasers in a few other uprights in the practice rooms in the back of the audtorium. I would say that the humidity near Lake Champlain is about 60-80% most of the summer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>All the pianos at the camp have been donated, and are old but good quality instruments for the most part. Right now they have a 1940's vintage Baldwin in great working order but very dirty, and it is being stored outside! I told the camp director to get the piano inside ASAP.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Look forward to your advice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Wayne Williams</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=paulrevenkojones@aol.com href="mailto:paulrevenkojones@aol.com">PAULREVENKOJONES</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 2:43 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Wayne:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You might not have enough information. I certainly don't. What are the other seasonal conditions? What is the condition of the pianos as you find them from summer to summer? Is there any temperature and/or humidity control in the facility in which the pianos reside? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><STRONG>"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)</STRONG></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 07/27/07 13:00:39 Central Daylight Time, wwilliams11@nycap.rr.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV> <STYLE type=text/css>.aolmailheader { FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } A.aolmailheader:link { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A.aolmailheader:visited { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: magenta; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A.aolmailheader:active { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A.aolmailheader:hover { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } </STYLE> Hello: <BR>I mentioned this in another email in regard to the Damp-Chaser product. I <BR>just tuning a Steinway grand and upright at a YMCA camp that operates only <BR>two months a year, July and August. The camp is on Lake Champlain in New <BR>York State, and the camp Director, a music teacher, says the summers are <BR>very humid. Teh grand alreaddy has a "heating bar". Do the painos, given the <BR>climate, warrent a complete Damp-Chaser system? <BR><BR>Wayne Williams <BR>Schroon Lake, NY <BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "R Barber" <bassooner42@yahoo.com> <BR>To: <pianotech@ptg.org> <BR>Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:36 PM <BR>Subject: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration <BR><BR><BR>>  The owner has double-paned windows, weather-stripped doors, drapes- <BR>> generally equipped to protect his niche from the environment, but prefers <BR>> open windows.  There is no central humidity control.  There is usually a <BR>> 24-hour on-shore breeze, so the typical climate will be high RH, about 95% <BR>> of the year.  RH ranges between 55-100% daily, but occasionally there is a <BR>> breeze from the off-shore direction when RH drops to 20% or below, <BR>> sometimes for a few days at a time. <BR>>  I've heard two votes for the wet, and I'm tending in that direction. <BR>> Thanks for you input! <BR>> Richard Barber <BR>> <BR>>> My recommendation would be to know the typical range of relative humidity <BR>>> (RH) the house (?) experiences. If the house is a old wood frame, windows <BR>>> are often open, no central air or heat, then sure, pick the <BR>>> "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser humidistat to match the outdoor <BR>>> environment. But many modern homes are well insulated from their outdoor <BR>>> environment and RH ranges in them may have little to do with outdoor RH <BR>>> ranges. Not only are modern homes well insulated from the outdoors (heat <BR>>> AND humidity), but any home also has it's own humidity sources - cooking, <BR>>> showers, etc. <BR>>> <BR>>> IMHO, if you are going to err at all, and being that you plan to install <BR>>> a full system (are you sure its gets dry in the home?), I would go with <BR>>> the "normal" humidistat. Another consideration might be if the instrument <BR>>> is old with a sagging soundboard and less-than-tight tuning pins, you <BR>>> might want the "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser humidistat to help the piano <BR>>> out a bit. <BR>>> <BR>>> Also, have you checked to see whether the home has a central humidity <BR>>> control system? <BR>>> <BR>>> Many things to consider. At least the piano is getting a DC system - <BR>>> always a good thing! <BR>>> <BR>>> Terry Farrell <BR>>> <BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>> Do you think a "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser would be a wiser choice <BR>>>> than the standard calibration for a client on a foggy coast? <BR>>>> Installation to include string cover + undercover, complete Dampp-Chaser <BR>>>> (not just rods), to cover off-shore dry spells. <BR>>>> <BR>>>> Thanks, <BR>>>> Richard Barber <BR>>>> Santa Clara Valley, CA <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>>     * Previous message: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration <BR>>>     * Next message: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration <BR>>>     * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] <BR>>> <BR>>> More information about the Pianotech mailing list <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> No virus found in this incoming message. <BR>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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