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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Dear Paul:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I think employing a hygrometer is a good idea.
Also, year-round climate control is the answer. I will do further inquiry in
regard to winter storage. Also. Having a heating bar equiped with a hygrometer
is a good idea also.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Thanks. I will stay in touch.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Wayne</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=anrebe@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:anrebe@sbcglobal.net">Andrew and
Rebeca Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Coastal Dampp-chaser
calibration</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Wayne,<BR>Do you have a hygrometer? Giving
recommendations without measurements is like shooting in the dark.
Rather ineffective except for certain movie stars... <BR><BR>It sounds like
the best fit for your needs (provided humidity is that high consistently)
would be DamppChaser's dehumidifier-only systems that contain heater bars and
a hygrometer to control them. A heater bar without control is piano
damage happening every long period you leave it plugged in. Undercovers
and stringcovers would work together to further protect the piano and make the
system more stabile. <BR><BR>A full system would require maintenance in
the form of adding water and if the actual measured humidity is lower you may
want to go that way. You would want to use a beeper system as no-one
(not even residential customers) will bother to maintain water levels without
aural stimulation. In an institutional setting that would require some
education as some ignoramus take-charge-types will just unplug the system
rather then deal with it.<BR><BR>Good Luck,<BR>Andrew Anderson, Artisan
Piano<BR><BR>At 09:46 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=4>Dear Paul,<BR>The
camp is only open two months of the year. The winters here are very long and
rugged. All the pianos are stored in a seperate room where there is a
minimal amount of climate comtrol.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4>Right
now,the 1919 A Steinway is in an uninsulated auditorium for the summer.
There is a Damp-Chaser heating bar inside. Is this sufficient for the
summer. The camp also wants dampchasers in a few other uprights in the
practice rooms in the back of the audtorium. I would say that the humidity
near Lake Champlain is about 60-80% most of the
summer.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4>All the pianos at the camp have
been donated, and are old but good quality instruments for the most part.
Right now they have a 1940's vintage Baldwin in great working order but very
dirty, and it is being stored outside! I told the camp director to get the
piano inside ASAP.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4>Look forward to your
advice.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4>Wayne Williams<BR></FONT>
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<DD>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:paulrevenkojones@aol.com">PAULREVENKOJONES</A> <BR>
<DD>To:</B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> <BR>
<DD>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 2:43 PM<BR>
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration<BR><BR>
<DD>Wayne:<BR>
<DD><BR>
<DD>You might not have enough information. I certainly don't. What are the
other seasonal conditions? What is the condition of the pianos as you find
them from summer to summer? Is there any temperature and/or humidity
control in the facility in which the pianos reside? <BR>
<DD><BR>
<DD>"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune
cookie)<BR></B>
<DD><BR>
<DD><BR>
<DD>In a message dated 07/27/07 13:00:39 Central Daylight Time,
wwilliams11@nycap.rr.com writes:<BR>
<DL>
<DD>Hello: <BR>
<DD>I mentioned this in another email in regard to the Damp-Chaser
product. I <BR>
<DD>just tuning a Steinway grand and upright at a YMCA camp that
operates only <BR>
<DD>two months a year, July and August. The camp is on Lake Champlain in
New <BR>
<DD>York State, and the camp Director, a music teacher, says the summers
are <BR>
<DD>very humid. Teh grand alreaddy has a "heating bar". Do the painos,
given the <BR>
<DD>climate, warrent a complete Damp-Chaser system? <BR><BR>
<DD>Wayne Williams <BR>
<DD>Schroon Lake, NY <BR>
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<DD>From: "R Barber" <bassooner42@yahoo.com> <BR>
<DD>To: <pianotech@ptg.org> <BR>
<DD>Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:36 PM <BR>
<DD>Subject: Coastal Dampp-chaser calibration <BR><BR><BR>
<DD>> The owner has double-paned windows, weather-stripped
doors, drapes- <BR>
<DD>> generally equipped to protect his niche from the environment,
but prefers <BR>
<DD>> open windows. There is no central humidity control.
There is usually a <BR>
<DD>> 24-hour on-shore breeze, so the typical climate will be high
RH, about 95% <BR>
<DD>> of the year. RH ranges between 55-100% daily, but
occasionally there is a <BR>
<DD>> breeze from the off-shore direction when RH drops to 20% or
below, <BR>
<DD>> sometimes for a few days at a time. <BR>
<DD>> I've heard two votes for the wet, and I'm tending in that
direction. <BR>
<DD>> Thanks for you input! <BR>
<DD>> Richard Barber <BR>
<DD>> <BR>
<DD>>> My recommendation would be to know the typical range of
relative humidity <BR>
<DD>>> (RH) the house (?) experiences. If the house is a old wood
frame, windows <BR>
<DD>>> are often open, no central air or heat, then sure, pick the
<BR>
<DD>>> "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser humidistat to match the
outdoor <BR>
<DD>>> environment. But many modern homes are well insulated from
their outdoor <BR>
<DD>>> environment and RH ranges in them may have little to do
with outdoor RH <BR>
<DD>>> ranges. Not only are modern homes well insulated from the
outdoors (heat <BR>
<DD>>> AND humidity), but any home also has it's own humidity
sources - cooking, <BR>
<DD>>> showers, etc. <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
<DD>>> IMHO, if you are going to err at all, and being that you
plan to install <BR>
<DD>>> a full system (are you sure its gets dry in the home?), I
would go with <BR>
<DD>>> the "normal" humidistat. Another consideration might be if
the instrument <BR>
<DD>>> is old with a sagging soundboard and less-than-tight tuning
pins, you <BR>
<DD>>> might want the "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser humidistat to
help the piano <BR>
<DD>>> out a bit. <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
<DD>>> Also, have you checked to see whether the home has a
central humidity <BR>
<DD>>> control system? <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
<DD>>> Many things to consider. At least the piano is getting a DC
system - <BR>
<DD>>> always a good thing! <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
<DD>>> Terry Farrell <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
<DD>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>
<DD>>>> Do you think a "wet"-calibrated Dampp-Chaser would be a
wiser choice <BR>
<DD>>>> than the standard calibration for a client on a foggy
coast? <BR>
<DD>>>> Installation to include string cover + undercover,
complete Dampp-Chaser <BR>
<DD>>>> (not just rods), to cover off-shore dry spells. <BR>
<DD>>>> <BR>
<DD>>>> Thanks, <BR>
<DD>>>> Richard Barber <BR>
<DD>>>> Santa Clara Valley, CA <BR>
<DD>>> <BR>
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