<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Loosen it, and lift.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=toddpianoworks@yahoo.com href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com">Matthew Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: String Installation Question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I have a mic.  My question was how can you get an accurate reading of a string still in the piano.</DIV> <DIV><BR><B><I>paul bruesch <<A href="mailto:paul@bruesch.net">paul@bruesch.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">You need to have a mic to measure the wire, but you do not have to spend $200. Schaff sells a nice Starrett for $100. It's not the digital display type, so you'll need to spend five minutes learning how to read it. You could also pick up one from a retiring tech, or possibly even buy a cheap one to get started... not my recommendation, though. The really expensive wire gauges only read whole wire sizes. Convenient, but not too useful. <BR><BR>The other day I tuned a S&S M. The A4 note only had one string, and when I pointed it out to the owner she said she'd heard a clangy noise a week prior. Funny, she didn't notice how weak-sounding that one note was, and likewise there was no trace of the remains (except the coils and an inch or two on one of the pins.) <BR><BR>Paul Bruesch<BR>Stillwater, MN<BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/2/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Matthew Todd</B> <<A href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com">toddpianoworks@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV>Last weekend, I tuned a console for a lady and discovered that a treble note was missing a string.  I pointed it out to her and I will be coming back to replace it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But I got to thinking....there are no traces of this broken string anywhere in the piano.  Totally vanished.  So, I am assuming that the previous tuner broke it, and didn't say anything.  Is that a fair assumption? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, how do I get a mic reading from the adjacent string, or calculate which size wire to use?  I know PianoTek sells a micrometer than enables you to measure diameters of strings still in the piano, but I'd rather not spend $200 on this item if I can help it, and I'm assuming this situation doesn't happen THAT often. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any help will be appreciated.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV><SPAN class=sg> <DIV>Matthew</DIV></SPAN><SPAN class=ad> <DIV></DIV> <HR SIZE=1> Be a better Heartthrob. <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=list&sid=396545433" target=_blank>Get better relationship answers </A>from someone who knows.<BR>Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. <DIV></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P> <HR SIZE=1> Ready for the edge of your seat? <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http://tv.yahoo.com/">Check out tonight's top picks</A> on Yahoo! TV. </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>