<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> I did once had a pin broken because to tight with the ca treatment. I suppose I ‘ve used to much glue ?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Pierre<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Message d'origine----- De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] De la part de Joe And Penny Goss Envoyé : vendredi 3 août 2007 20:10 À : <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Objet : Re: CA glue---thanks <o:p> </o:p> Gregor, The glue does not swell the wood that I can measure, but fills the<o:p></o:p> voids in cracks and cells of the wood.<o:p></o:p> It does not matter if the glue comes in contact with the tuning pin. The CA<o:p></o:p> does sometimes make the tuning initally very tight and one needs to lower<o:p></o:p> the pin to break the bond loose then tune to pitch.<o:p></o:p> Joe Goss RPT<o:p></o:p> Mother Goose Tools<o:p></o:p> imatunr@srvinet.com<o:p></o:p> www.mothergoosetools.com<o:p></o:p> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> From: "Gregor _" <karlkaputt@hotmail.com><o:p></o:p> To: <pianotech@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:47 AM<o:p></o:p> Subject: Re: CA glue---thanks<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> > bad luck for me, because Loctite is the only brand you mentioned with the<o:p></o:p> > same brand name here in Germany. I planned to buy that Loctite stuff, but<o:p></o:p> > now I will review the situation. Does anybody know a decent CA glue that<o:p></o:p> is<o:p></o:p> > sold in Europe (Germany)? What does CA stand for? I never saw it in<o:p></o:p> Germany.<o:p></o:p> > I think we are talking about that stuff that is sold here as<o:p></o:p> Sekundenkleber,<o:p></o:p> > which means a glue that glues within seconds.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> > Another question about CA on pinblocks: the theory is that the thin glue<o:p></o:p> > goes into the wood and makes the pin tighter due to swelling wood. Is it<o:p></o:p> bad<o:p></o:p> > when the glue goes between wood and pin? And how to prevent that? I don´t<o:p></o:p> > want to glue the pin to the wood. I want the wood to swell, right?<o:p></o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> > Gregor<o:p></o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> > >From: Tom Sivak <tvaktvak@sbcglobal.net><o:p></o:p> > >Reply-To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> <pianotech@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> > >To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> <pianotech@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> > >Subject: Re: CA glue---thanks<o:p></o:p> > >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 05:06:05 -0700 (PDT)<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > >Thanks to all for the intelligent responses. I'll stay away from the<o:p></o:p> > >Lock-Tite in the future. I think Joe Goss put it best: (I paraphrase...)<o:p></o:p> > >If your eyes aren't watering, it ain't the right glue to use.<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > > Thanks again,<o:p></o:p> > > Tom Sivak<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > >Ron Koval <drwoodwind@hotmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p> > > I remember hearing or reading somewhere that any CA that comes from a<o:p></o:p> > >grocery store, or hardware store, or "big box" store must meet certain<o:p></o:p> > >shelf<o:p></o:p> > >life requirements. To assure that shelf life, additives are used which<o:p></o:p> can<o:p></o:p> > >have an effect on performance...<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > >Stick to the hobby shops, or mail order - My best results have come from<o:p></o:p> > >multiple passes instead of one heavy application. Also, be aware that low<o:p></o:p> > >humidity can have a negative impact on the pinblock CA treatment.... as<o:p></o:p> > >some<o:p></o:p> > >of you in the dry southwest have reported.<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > >Ron Koval<o:p></o:p> > >Chicagoland<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > >_________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p> > >A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here.<o:p></o:p> > >http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us<o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> > ><o:p></o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> > _________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p> > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now!<o:p></o:p> > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/<o:p></o:p> ><o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>