<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <DIV>You'll have to develop your own judgement on this, but I put a single twist in a string when installing. In old strings, I put a single twist in, listen, and if I have to go back and put another in, I might, but I'll also be telling the client that this is a signal for the need to replace; also that strings will break at the becket (particularly in the deep bass) if they're old, rusty, etc. I put full twists (whole number) in instead of half twists on old strings to avoid bending the wire back on itself at the bridgepins. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Paul</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><STRONG>"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)</STRONG></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 08/06/07 15:17:44 Central Daylight Time, lclgcnp@yahoo.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV> <STYLE type=text/css> .aolmailheader {font-size:8pt; color:black; font-family:Arial} a.aolmailheader:link {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:visited {color:magenta; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:active {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} a.aolmailheader:hover {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; font-weight:normal} </STYLE> Both when referring to new strings, and old, <BR>defubbimized ones ??? I find that over-twisting <BR>makes them "clangy". ( also more prone to breakage. ) <BR>I just did 2 full twists on an old player, hoping to <BR>brighten the tone, a bit. ( haven't pulled it up, yet <BR>) I wouldn't do more than that, though. <BR>    G <BR><BR><BR><BR>--- PAULREVENKOJONES <paulrevenkojones@aol.com> wrote: <BR><BR>> Totally correct. I should have explained further, <BR>> Ron. Thanks. <BR>> <BR>> Paul <BR>> <BR>> "If you want to know the truth, stop having <BR>> opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie) <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> In a message dated 08/04/07 12:39:31 Central <BR>> Daylight Time, rnossaman@cox.net writes: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > I'm not sure where I heard it, but I thought a <BR>> twist in a plain-wire <BR>> > string would bring about ("false") beating. <BR>> <BR>> That's one of those things everyone is taught, <BR>> everyone knows, <BR>> but no one actually sees happen in a piano. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >As you point out it shortens <BR>> > the length of what is being twisted (one, maybe <BR>> two string(s) of a <BR>> > three-string "unison") resulting in a need for <BR>> higher tension in one, <BR>> > maybe two string(s) of a three-string "unison". <BR>> What does that do to the <BR>> > "unison?"  I put "unison" in quotes, 'cuz I'm <BR>> wondering if they all make <BR>> > "one sound," i.e. "uni-son".  While it may not <BR>> result in beating, I <BR>> > would expect that the twisted string(s) would <BR>> produce a different sound <BR>> > than untwisted neighbor string(s). <BR>> <BR>> If you put four turns on one wire, maybe. With the <BR>> normal <BR>> minimal twisting you could realistically expect in <BR>> installing <BR>> a string, no. <BR>> Ron N <BR>> <BR><BR><BR><BR>      <BR>____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? <BR>Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. <BR>http://tv.yahoo.com/ <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>