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Action bracket knob loose and bracket rubbing on the bolt threads.....??<br>
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Mike<br>
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Tom Sivak wrote:
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<div>List</div>
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<div>Fixed a squeaky pedal today and the solution to the probem was
one that never occurred to me, nor will anyone on this list solve it,
including you, Paul Revenko-Jones! </div>
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<div>Now, I'm not saying I'm any better than you guys; it's much
harder to figure something like this out from cyberspace. I had the
distinct advantage of having my hands on the piano (and an hour and a
half of time). </div>
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<div>But what I am saying is that the squeak came from somewhere
you'll never guess. (So, think outside the box!)</div>
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<div>The piano: a Yamaha P202 from the 80s. The squeak occurred on
the release of the damper pedal. It was a creak more than a squeak.
Like a rusty door hinge, it would creak 4 or 5 distinct times rapidly
in a row, almost like a cricket. It was LOUD. (You could actually
release the pedal slowly and hear each individual creak. It sounded
like somebody cracking their knuckles.)</div>
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<div>Here's what I did that DIDN'T fix it:</div>
<div>1. Floor board was loose at the front where the movers damaged
the bottom a bit. Put more screws in to keep it from moving upon
depression of the pedal. That didn't fix it.</div>
<div>2. Lubricated EVERY friction point from the pedal itself to the
damper lift rod connectors in the action. Nope.</div>
<div>3. Tightened the screws on the pedal floor bracket and also the
bracket that holds the horizontal lever that connects the pedal to the
vertical damper rod. (This actually eliminated a clunk that happened
on the downward movement of the pedal but didn't affect the creak on
the upside.)</div>
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<div>At this point, with the clunk gone, I realized that the creak
was coming from above the keys, not below. Sure enough, I could
disconnect the vertical damper rod from the pedal assembly and with my
hands, push the damper lift rod up and there was the squeak, clear as
day.</div>
<div>So I focused on what was above the keys. </div>
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<div>4. I removed the action and moved the damper lift rod with my
finger and there was no creak. Perfectly silent. Hhhhmmmm....maybe
it's the rod itself. </div>
<div>5. Yes! I found that the pedal rod had a deteriorating rubber
nipple on the top and replaced it! Nope.</div>
<div>6. Put new punchings to cushion the vertical damper rod on both
ends. Still creaky.</div>
<div>7. Removed the action and tightened all the screws in the action
brackets. I did find a couple that were slightly loose, but...nope,
still there.</div>
<div>8. Tightened case screws on the interior of the piano. (OK, at
this point, I was grasping at straws.)</div>
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<div>So...here's your big clue, since this will be hard enough even
with a clue:</div>
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<div><strong>The creak only occurs when the action is in the piano.
And it happens whether you lift the dampers using the pedal or push
up the damper lift rod with your hands. Yet, take the action out of
the piano and lift the damper lift rod with your hands, and there's
total silence. Back in the piano, there it is again!</strong></div>
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<div>Any ideas?<br>
<br>
Prove me wrong. Somebody solve this one. I dare you. LOL! </div>
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<div>I won't let this go on too long, but anybody got an idea?<br>
<br>
Tom Sivak</div>
<div>Chicago</div>
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