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<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3>How worn are the hammers? What is the condition
of the bass bridge? Either or both acting together could be affecting what you
are describing. A third possibility is the strings have been replaced with a
lesser quality product and that's why they look so good!? <BR><BR
clear=all><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hammers are ok, bass bridge - no splits and
strings have nice offset across it, string's windings have the flattened
sweadging at the agraffe end and fancy curl like twist at the bridge end that is
typical of that piano - I do not think thay are original but could be wrong -
what I mean by in good shape is the lack of crud and dirt build up that is
consistent with the tubby sound - they are clean but aged, not the nice shiny
copper but the copper color is visible.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene</FONT><BR>--
<BR>Michael Magness<BR>Magness Piano Service<BR>608-786-4404<BR></FONT><A
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<A title=IFixPianos@yahoo.com href="mailto:IFixPianos@yahoo.com">Michael
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:46
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: not the typical tuning
problem at the break</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/28/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Gene
Nelson</B> <<A href="mailto:nelsong@pbic.net">nelsong@pbic.net</A>>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have a client with a 1900 Bechstein
7'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The board is dead and needs replacement. Bass
strings appear in good shape -not full of crud and clean looking- but are a
little tubby sounding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While tuning several of the top bass
bichords I can tune the unisons very well, however - when the
unisons are in tune, one string of the unison will be quite a bit
out of tune with all adjacent intervals - 3rds, 10ths, 6ths, octaves etc. If
I tune the intervals to sound ok then the unison is out of tune as one of
the strings will agree with intervals and the other will not. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The tuning ends up sounding ok but I have not
been to resolve this to my satisfaction. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have tuned it aurally and with a SAT - the
aural tunings work better but it is easy to get lost using either - afraid
of breaking a string.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have tried alternative techniques like
focusing ear and SAT on fundamental frequency rather than the partials with
the same resultant issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone else ever experience this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene Nelson</FONT></DIV>
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