<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C7EE68.F4BDAFF0"> <link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="cid:editdata.mso@01C7EE68.F4BDAFF0">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> I don’t think I would take the responsibility to do this lift. Hire someone experience. Maybe a concert or theatre production company that uses rigging all of the time for lighting and speakers. They could install a 2 ton electric chain lift and have the proper means to attach it to a beam. This way you are not liable. My 2 cents worth.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Wayne Walker<o:p></o:p> Musicstop Acoustic Piano Service<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: Greg Newell [mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:49 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Hoisting ????? <o:p> </o:p> Paul, <x-tab>        </x-tab>Well, the original poster was me and I am still enjoying the information being presented here. It is so far, for the most part, very helpful. There have only been a couple posts where feathers were ruffled and that doesn't seem strange at all considering the checkered past of this list. If you don't mind I'm still keenly interested in what people have to say on the subject.  Thanks for your opinion about deferring to someone else for the job. It's been addressed before but as I responded last time I am willing and excited by the challenge. Thanks for your post. best, Greg Newell At 01:29 PM 9/3/2007, you wrote: <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> That would be my take... I've long since lost track of who posted the original note on this thread, but let me just say that, while I am reasonably certain there may well be piano technicians "out there" who could effectively and safely solve this problem, if I was given the responsibility of getting the piano to the balcony/loft, I would defer to someone who does that sort of thing as a matter of routine. We read stories like this in the paper from time to time... the humongous safe that MUST be placed in/retrieved from the third story inner sanctum... and it ain't piano technicians that get asked to do the work... and it ain't farmers and it ain't gals and guys who build garages for a livin' either... While it's great to ask advice on this forum, I think it's ludicrous that it develops into sniping and bickering and tons of sometimes uninformed suggestions I think we've killed a couple of healthy horses out of the herd as well... Paul Bruesch Stillwater, MN On 9/3/07, <a href="mailto:JWyatt1492@aol.com">JWyatt1492@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:JWyatt1492@aol.com">JWyatt1492@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p> Hello to All,<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>   Did some ask? <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> " is this horse dead enough yet"<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Respectfully,<o:p></o:p> Jack Wyatt <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:1.0in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Get a sneak peek of the all-new <a href="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982">AOL.com</a>.<o:p></o:p> </x-sigsep><x-sigsep>Greg Newell Greg's Piano Fort� <a href="http://www.gregspianoforte.com/" eudora=autourl>www.gregspianoforte.com </a>216-226-3791 (office) 216-470-8634 (mobile) 2003,04,05 & 06 winners of Angie's List Super Service Award<o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>