<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> It seems to me that I solved this problem one time with shorter screws. <st1:PersonName w:st="on">M</st1:PersonName>cFeeley’s (see URL below) has pan head screws in 1/8” length increments, and I’m sure there are many other places to buy them. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <a href="http://www.mcfeelys.com/find-a-fastener.aspx?gclid=CM6L19_jqY4CFQYjWAod_0f-Yg">http://www.mcfeelys.com/find-a-fastener.aspx?gclid=CM6L19_jqY4CFQYjWAod_0f-Yg</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Kerry<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Erwinspiano@aol.com Sent: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">M</st1:PersonName>onday, September 03, 2007 9:33 P<st1:PersonName w:st="on">M</st1:PersonName> To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Pan screws in Steinway rails<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div>   Happy Labor day<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   I find our shop replacing parts routinely on many Teflon era Steinway pianos. No matter what hammer shanks & flanges we use the pan screws seem to teak the new flanges fore, aft, sideways etc. This creates all kinds of traveling ,fun...etc.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>     All new known parts suppliers have a flange that is substantially thinner then the old gi-normously thick flanges. One danger is the screw penetrating the bottom of the brass rail & splitting it out.,.. I've seen this more than once. Yes a washer helps to avoid this. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   <st1:PersonName w:st="on">M</st1:PersonName>y fix at this point is to replace the pan heads with a Renner/German style screw.  The problem is this. On some, because the rails have a very coarse thread already cut into them by the pan heads, the New screws often will start to strip under modest torque.  Ughhh!<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>      If any of you have a better option I'd love to hear it. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>    On the next one I thought I'd try a few drops of thin CA in the old holes before inserting the new screw just to re-enforce the existing wood/threads already cut. The c.a. I think would be best if it dried first.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   Any brains storms?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   Dale <o:p></o:p> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Dale Erwin--Piano Restorations 4721 Parker rd <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">M</st1:PersonName>odesto</st1:place></st1:City>, Ca. 95357 Shop 209-577-8397 Web site <a href="http://www.erwinspiano.com/">http://www.Erwinspiano.com</a> Restoration & Sales of Steinway & Sons & other fine pianos. " Soundboards by Design"<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p></o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-top:7.5pt;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Get a sneak peek of the all-new <a href="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982" target="_blank" title="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982">AOL.com</a>.<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>