<html> <body> Barbara, <x-tab>        </x-tab>Well, nothing too fancy here. I just break it down just as you would for moving except that I remove the lid and hinges, of course. After that it's just like putting it on the grand board except it isn't there. What ever the surface is it's padded and then just keep going up and over. Nothing with too much thought involved I assure you! :-) best, Greg At 09:14 AM 9/7/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Greg,   No need to apologize.  I've been part of a grand moving team--no, not just to place the dolly--but, shucks, I must admit, I <am> pretty good at that!  :-)  I can do the pull down, but don't have much to offer on the lifting end.  It's hard for me to visualize how one inverts the piano.  What do you do?    Barbara Richmond <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net">Greg Newell</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> <dd>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:19 AM <dd>Subject: Re: cracks in rim <dd>Barbara, <dd><x-tab>        </x-tab>I'm so sorry. I should have realized the possible physical or strength limitations. It's possibly not the easiest thing you could ever do. Nevertheless I think it really isn't necessary in this case anyway. <dd>all the best, <dd>Greg Newell <dd>At 12:07 AM 9/7/2007, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <dd>Hi Greg, <dd>  <dd>After hearing from some folks, it seems it's a cosmetic problem--which is a relief.  You know, I've heard it before, but the term "simply invert the piano" doesn't sound... well...so simple.  I guess I need piano inverting lessons (or not).  I'm sure glad it wasn't on the RPT technical test--"And now, Miss. Bennett, please invert this piano."   Umm....   ;-) <dd>  <dd>Barbara (Bennett) Richmond, RPT <dd>near Peoria, Illinois <dd>  <dd>  <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net">Greg Newell</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</a> <dd>Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:49 PM <dd>Subject: Re: cracks in rim <dd>Barbara, <dd>I doubt that it will make a huge difference to the ear of your customer unless their one of your high end clients. If so I would simply invert the piano and soak epoxy into the crack. It might help. Are you fixing a sound problem or a cosmetic problem? <dd>best, <dd>Greg <dd>At 03:56 PM 9/6/2007, you wrote:<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <dd>Howdy, <dd>  <dd>I just serviced a 15 year old KG-2.  While I was underneath the piano taking care of noisy trapwork, I noticed a crack all the way around the rim.  It looks like it is between the inner(?) and outer(?) rim.  In some places I could easy insert my feeler gauge 1" or more.  Unfortunately, I had left my camera in my shop, but the piano's owner let me use her camera phone to take pictures.  Sorry about the picture quality--hope you can see.   I would like opinions--is the piano in trouble?   Should it be fixed?  How? <dd>  <dd>Thanks, <dd>  <dd>Barbara Richmond, RPT <dd>near Peoria, Illinois <dd>  <dd> </blockquote> <dd>Greg Newell <dd>Greg's Piano Forté <dd><a href="http://www.gregspianoforte.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.gregspianoforte.com</a> <dd>216-226-3791 (office) <dd>216-470-8634 (mobile) <dd>2003,04,05 & 06 winners of <dd>Angie's List Super Service Award</blockquote> </dl> <dd>Greg Newell <dd>Greg's Piano Forté <dd><a href="http://www.gregspianoforte.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.gregspianoforte.com</a> <dd>216-226-3791 (office) <dd>216-470-8634 (mobile) <dd>2003,04,05 & 06 winners of <dd>Angie's List Super Service Award </blockquote> <x-sigsep></x-sigsep> </dl>Greg Newell Greg's Piano Forté <a href="http://www.gregspianoforte.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.gregspianoforte.com </a>216-226-3791 (office) 216-470-8634 (mobile) 2003,04,05 & 06 winners of Angie's List Super Service Award </body> </html>