<div>On 9/7/07, Dean May <<a href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">deanmay@pianorebuilders.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Depends on the size and how burly your lifters are. Use the same number you would use to put a piano on a skid. For a smallish grand 2 is fine. For a nine footer I'd use 4. Dean Dean May             cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN  47802 -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Barbara Richmond Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:55 AM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: cracks in rim Conrad, Dean, Either way, how many people does it take? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conrad Hoffsommer" <<a href="mailto:hoffsoco@luther.edu">hoffsoco@luther.edu </a>> To: "Pianotech List" <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: Re: cracks in rim > > > Barbara Richmond wrote: >> Hi Greg, >>  No need to apologize.  I've been part of a grand moving team--no, not >> just to place the dolly--but, shucks, I must admit, I <am> pretty good at >> that!  :-)  I can do the pull down, but don't have much to offer on the >> lifting end.  It's hard for me to visualize how one inverts the piano. >> What do you do? Barbara Richmond >> > > Pretend you're putting it down on a skid and just keep going. > ;-} > > Adequately blanketed, etc.,  you could take it from the skid position on > it's side to inverted by using a tilter. > > > -- > Conrad Hoffsommer - Keyboard Technician > Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 > 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 > You take the action out, lid off and lid hinges off the rim. Stand it up on the side as normal, then tip it on over. Make sure you have appropriate padding in place for where it comes down. First time I saw such cracks I realized that they make them with that way, with the outer rim assembled at the end. That means the inner rim must be designed to handle all the stress by itself with the outer rim serving primarily a cosmetic function. Dean Dean May             cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN  47802 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- </blockquote></div> <div>One more thing to consider, how to you pick it up afterward? It's a good idea to put some blocks of wood under the padding so the piano is elevated a few inches off the floor. You then have room to put your fingers underneath the piano when the time comes to lift it back up! </div> <div>  Mike -- Never become so much of an expert that you stop gaining expertise. View life as a continuous learning experience. - Denis Waitley Michael Magness Magness Piano Service 608-786-4404 <a href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</a> email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</a> </div>