<html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'>Yes, of course, no problem, thank you for the kind clarification Jurgen.  I was offering the translation into English.  "der Klavierbauer" (I'm fairly certain, please correct me if I am wrong) translates to "piano makers" in English and is the technicians org.  which would be the German org to contact for someone wanting certification to work.  I wasn't implying membership in the Bundesverban Klavier (at least not at this juncture <G>).   mcs  <DIV>                Michael C. Spreeman <A href="http://www.spreemanpianoinnovations.com/">http://www.spreemanpianoinnovations.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR id=EC_stopSpelling> From: pianoforte@pianofortesupply.com Subject: Re: Overseas employment Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:48:20 -0700 To: pianotech@ptg.org <META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator> <STYLE> .ExternalClass .EC_EmailQuote {margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#800000 2px solid;} </STYLE> A tiny correction if I may: "Bund Deutscher Klavierbauer" is the association of German piano technicians.  The German piano manufacturers have their own association is called  "Bundesverband Klavier" <A href="http://www.pianos.de/" target=_blank>http://www.pianos.de/</A> If anyone in the US is interested in subscribing to Europiano magazine, the journal of the alliance of all piano technician organizations in Europe, please contact me.  I am the representative for the publisher Bochinsky, which produces this quarterly as well as books on piano technology. I can set up subscriptions and save you a lot of cross-Atlantic hassle. Regarding living and working in Europe, no matter what profession you choose, there are immigration issues to deal with - visas. work permits etc. Contact the nearest consulate of the country of your choosing.  perhaps if your spouse gets a permit to work as a musician or artist (these visas are sometimes easier to get) you could do some piano work on the side. Jurgen Goering Piano Forte Supply (250) 754-2440 info@pianofortesupply.com <A href="http://www.pianofortesupply.com/" target=_blank>http://www.pianofortesupply.com</A> On Sep 17, 2007, at 0:46, Michael Spreeman wrote: <DIV class=EC_EmailQuote>...snip    I recently became a member of the BDK (Bund Deutcher  Klavierbauer, or loosely translated in English, the Alliance of German Piano Manufacturers) and know that one is, shall we say, strongly encouraged to posses this accreditation in order to legally perform service in Germany,  snip.....   ....From there you can find specific orgs for each of the countries you mentioned with web addresses and contact information.  Also check out Europiano. mcs                 Michael C. Spreeman </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <hr />More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. <a href='http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907' target='_new'>Get more!</a></body> </html>