<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/25/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Richard Brekne</b> <<a href="mailto:ricb@pianostemmer.no">ricb@pianostemmer.no</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi Mike... didnt see this as your posts come through on my reader with<br>everything in italics... so it looks like you've just pressed the send <br>button without writing a reply.<br><br>Indeed... if there is any <<appropriate>> string seating procedure...<br>(and I am quite sure there is) this is the best course by far.  Accuracy<br>doesnt work into the picture at all.... the point is that the string <br>should be in solid contact with the bridge surface... but not buried<br>into the wood... and most certainly does one not want to create a groove<br>in the bridge that has an even very short segment indented so low as to <br>be below the strings deflection line... as is extremely easy to do when<br>pressure is put on the string outside of the string segment on the<br>bridge surface itself.<br><br>Neither is there any preferable goal attained by putting pressure <br>sideways against the bridge pin. The pin will force a depression in the<br>surface area of the bridge pin hole long before any thing of substance<br>will happen to the string itself, and this will do nothing but weaken <br>the termination... usually a prime reason for the appearance of cracks<br>on the bridge cap seen so often reaching down the notch at near<br>perpendicular angles from the bridge pins themselves.<br><br>As someone else said... just because some fellow with 50 years <br>experience tells you something doesn't make it true... regardless of the<br>amount of respect he / she has in the business.<br><br>Cheers<br>RicB<br><br><br>   For those who prefer to seat their strings directly on the bridge I did <br>   learn an alternative method, from the same source, using a standard<br>   upright<br>   hammer shank, place the tip of the shank on the string on top of the<br>   bridge<br>   toward the pin and tap it lightly with the side of a pliers. If you <br>   strike<br>   too hard, you will only split the shank! Repeat both sides of each<br>   string,<br>   you will find this slower, more expensive( you'll split a lot of hammer<br>   shanks) and not as accurate as the other method but for those of you <br>   afraid<br>   of trying something new that might actually work, this would be the<br>   ticket!<br><br>   Mike</blockquote> <div> </div> <div> </div><br> </div> <div>I'm sorry Ric but you didn't inform me of anything I wasn't already aware of nor did you add to the discussion so much as confuse it. </div> <div><br>So I reiterate don't try it just knock it. When I started in this business using an ETD was not only frowned on it was considered to be wrong! I guess if enough people do the wrong thing it becomes right, is that how it works? </div> <div>I'm still trying to make sense out of this whole PTG system of jumping all over someone who advances an idea or technique and declaring it to be a fool's errand due to the reader's misunderstanding of the technique. </div> <div>I read every week about someone or other spraying CA all over some piano and getting pats on the back for it, what I learned was to do nothing that the next tech could not redo, which does not include spraying CA everywhere. </div> <div>When did that become a tried & true technique and who decided it? </div> <div> </div> <div>I ask this question only because I want to know, since so many have rejected the technique I put forth, how many have tried it? I have been asking that all day, all I get back is surly replies, supposition and guesses. </div> <div>In my chapter if we are going to test something we actually do it, we don't just guess at the results!! My chapter is a part of the PTG, the same one you all belong to, I'd like to thank you for your support or for some of you trying it but I can't because there has been none of either. </div> <div>So I can only thank you all for nothing except your extreme closed mindedness!</div> <div> </div> <div>Mike<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Never become so much of an expert that you stop gaining expertise. View life as a continuous learning experience. <br>- Denis Waitley<br> </div> <div>I have learned my lesson very well, in the future, I won't so readily share the tricks and techniques I've learned over the last 38 years. If I wanted abuse and attacks, I'd talk to my wife!<br><br>Michael Magness <br>Magness Piano Service<br>608-786-4404<br><a href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</a><br>email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</a> </div>