<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16525" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Oops,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Hate when that happens.  Supposed to be private.  I apologize.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>William R. Monroe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotech@a440piano.net href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">William R. Monroe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:30 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Off List</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>Mike,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>This is getting less useful with every post you make.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>Care to comment on your open-mindedness yet?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>vis-a-vis your comments on impact levers:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>"I have no experience with them and have never had any interest in trying them............. Fine tuning is about nuance, how does one get nuance out of an IMPACT hammer? I've never been able to figure that out."</DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>I bring this up because this attitude is pretty obvious in the rest of your posts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>As to the rest of your flaming.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>You write:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">"William Monroe jumped in explaining that CA was perfectly acceptable for pins that were already far in and weren't holding, again I stop here and point out that he must have not read my first post asking about the coil to plate distance, " and further "this is the crucial point that EVERYONE seems to have glossed over! WHY?"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=2>As I wrote previously</FONT>, "<FONT size=2>Alan (and others) point is that on a block whose pins are plenty far in and still don't hold, CA works.  Most pianos that need tighter pins do not have pins too proud of the plate/block."</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>We read your first post, Mike.  I think everyone accepts that if the coils are 1/2" above the plate, pound away, that's pretty basic.  That's why we (I) am not addressing it.  Move on.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>You write:"<FONT size=3>When you drive the pin deeper it helps to stir-up/stand-up some of those fibers again giving the threads a new grip, at the same time the pin is tapered and a thicker portion of the pin has moved into a different part of the hole along it's entire length" </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#ff0000>I<FONT size=2> didn't know that tuning pins in general are tapered.  I understand that Bosendorfer and Vose used tapered pins, but I'm unaware of others.  Please inform if you know, I really would be interested.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">You write, "I visually inspect blocks for delaminations prior to driving pins, in grands it usually can be seen."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>How in the world do you see this.  The stretcher covers one side, the plate the other.  Without removing the block, I can't understand how you can see delaminations in a grand block.  Please explain.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style">You write, "Even when I preface them with "in my opinion" or "if such and such exists, then I would suggest" they get torn apart, the meaning, meat and flavor are all ripped asunder then reformed into something I barely recognize as my words and thrown back in my face! "</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>You should consider this when writing your posts.  You do a fine job of just that.  I see no point in responding to the rest of your vitriol.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#ff0000 size=2>William R. Monroe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>