<div>My feeling is the only answer that will be accepted by anyone is that I had no point to make.</div> <div> </div> <div>I asked a question first, then followed it up with a suggestion, IF the answer to that question was yes.</div> <div> </div> <div>Everyone ignored the question and jumped all over the suggestion, It wasn't an order, just a simple suggestion.</div> <div> </div> <div>As for my open-mindedness if I didn't have an open mind I wouldn't be here!</div> <div> </div> <div>My comments regarding the impact lever, were that I had no interest in owning one, we have those in the chapter that do and I have tried them<br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/27/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">William R. Monroe</b> <<a href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">pianotech@a440piano.net</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">Mike,</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">This is getting less useful with every post you make.</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">Care to comment on your open-mindedness yet?</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">vis-a-vis your comments on impact levers:</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div> <div> <div>"I have no experience with them and have never had any interest in trying them............. Fine tuning is about nuance, how does one get nuance out of an IMPACT hammer? I've never been able to figure that out." </div></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">I bring this up because this attitude is pretty obvious in the rest of your posts.</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">As to the rest of your flaming.</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">You write:</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style">"William Monroe jumped in explaining that CA was perfectly acceptable for pins that were already far in and weren't holding, again I stop here and point out that he must have not read my first post asking about the coil to plate distance, " and further "this is the crucial point that EVERYONE seems to have glossed over! WHY?" </font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#ff0000"><font size="2">As I wrote previously</font>, "<font size="2">Alan (and others) point is that on a block whose pins are plenty far in and still don't hold, CA works.  Most pianos that need tighter pins do not have pins too proud of the plate/block." </font></font></font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> I was not questioning that point, William! I asked the question if the coils were perhaps further than that from the plate, no response!</div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">We read your first post, Mike.  I think everyone accepts that if the coils are 1/2" above the plate, pound away, that's pretty basic.  That's why we (I) am not addressing it.  Move on. </font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2">You write:"<font size="3">When you drive the pin deeper it helps to stir-up/stand-up some of those fibers again giving the threads a new grip, at the same time the pin is tapered and a thicker portion of the pin has moved into a different part of the hole along it's entire length" </font></font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#ff0000">I<font size="2"> didn't know that tuning pins in general are tapered.  I understand that Bosendorfer and Vose used tapered pins, but I'm unaware of others.  Please inform if you know, I really would be interested. </font></font></font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> The Denro I just micced is</div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style">You write, "I visually inspect blocks for delaminations prior to driving pins, in grands it usually can be seen."</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">How in the world do you see this.  The stretcher covers one side, the plate the other.  Without removing the block, I can't understand how you can see delaminations in a grand block.  Please explain. </font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> I've frequently seen delaminations in grands looking at the edge from the action cavity with a mirror or by removing a pin in a suspect area.</div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style">You write, "Even when I preface them with "in my opinion" or "if such and such exists, then I would suggest" they get torn apart, the meaning, meat and flavor are all ripped asunder then reformed into something I barely recognize as my words and thrown back in my face! " </font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"></font> </div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">You should consider this when writing your posts.  You do a fine job of just that.  I see no point in responding to the rest of your vitriol.</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2"></font> I didn't ask for a response, just a little understanding, I'm an easgoing, get along with everybody kind of guy.</div></div></blockquote> <div>   I'm wondering how well you feel you would stand up to the kind of attacks I've been subjected to the last few days just for venturing my opinion? Now when I try to respond I'm accused of vitriol. I only attempted to help and for my trying to help I got ridiculed and kicked in the teeth. What is it that I've done that is so wrong? </div> <div>Posting my opinion? Defending my opinion? Joining the list? Being on the same planet with you superior beings? Yes you'll say the last went too far but if you look at your letters criticizing EVERYTHING I've said that's the way you appear to think of yourselves. Go ahead re-read it all, it's a mob piling on to one guy who just wanted to help another guy. So you all feel I was wrong, so Alan I'm sorry I tried to help! I'll be very, very, very careful in any future posts. My apologies to all! Sincerely!! </div> <div> </div><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style" color="#ff0000" size="2">William R. Monroe</font></div> <div><font face="Bookman Old Style"></font> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>Mike<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.<br><br>Michael Magness <br>Magness Piano Service<br>608-786-4404<br><a href="http://www.IFixPianos.com">www.IFixPianos.com</a><br>email <a href="mailto:mike@ifixpianos.com">mike@ifixpianos.com</a>